NOOOO! NO WAY WE ARE HEADED TOWARD’S HITLER’S T-4! SHUT YOUR MOUTH!
I RANG THE BELL already on Terri’s fight for life and how it is about MORE than JUST TERRI! I have warned. I have been criticized for it QUITE A BIT! I’m “over the top.” I’m just “inciting” people. YEAH! Uhuh! I knew it was coming. I just had NO IDEA it was TRULY SO CLOSE, or coming SO FAST!
What do I find TODAY?
WHO PAYS?
By ADAM BRODSKY
April 6, 2005 -- TERRI Schiavo's protracted death focused attention on the right to die, but it should also spark some serious thinking about an equally vital — and emotion-laden — matter: the cost of keeping people like Schiavo, and those near death, alive.
Catch that?
Certainly, this is a matter for families, who bear heavy emotional and financial burdens and devote hours to caring for disabled family members.
But it is also of concern to society, which subsidizes the costs.
NO! WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE COSTS ($$$$) TO SOCIETY?
Leading all other states in that regard: yup — New York.
The public costs here are mind-boggling.
That's partly because New Yorkers are so compassionate, health-care unions so powerful and government so generous with other people's money.
Those damn compassionate people. Funny, conservatives have been accused of having NO compassion for YEARS! Now that conservatives have identified themselves as compassionate, it is a dirty word when Pro-Lifers use it?
Think about it: Medicaid spending on long-term care in New York amounts to some $14 billion a year — or nearly a third of all Medicaid costs.
Now we have changed the words again! We went from euthanasia for those terminally ill to LONG TERM CARE! HUGE DIFFERENCE! HUGE DIFFERENCE! DIABETICS are on LONG TERM CARE!
Medicaid overall, meanwhile, has been carving huge craters in state and local budgets.
Counties and cities have rocketed up taxes and laid off workers to pay Medicaid bills. Erie County pink-slipped some 2,000 people last month.
The tax hikes, meanwhile, are throttling local economies.
I thought it was George W Bush’s tax breaks and the War on Terror that was KILLING the economy. HUH? So we change more than just definitions, we change reasons for claimed problems as well. Anything to get the agenda pushed, eh?
For people like Schiavo (and certainly folks more functional than her), subsidized long-term care may be the only morally defensible option.
But what about the pain to public employees, like those in Erie, who lose their jobs? Or to residents denied sufficient police and firefighters? Or to firms forced to close, move or fire workers because of onerous Medicaid-fueled taxes?
What about the millions of New Yorkers who must struggle to pay outrageous tax bills to cover the costs of elderly or home-bound New Yorkers?
Let's face it: Keeping people alive — and providing for much, if not all, of their long-term care — takes a huge economic toll.
HOW DARE THESE PEOPLE GET SICK? HOW DARE THEY REQUIRE OUR HELP TO LIVE? THE AUDACITY! LOOK AT WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO "OUR" ECONOMY!
Families can decide for themselves how much care they want to provide. But when government foots the bill, a cold, dispassionate public debate of the costs is essential.
A “cold, dispassionate public debate of the costs is essential.”? I thought it was about “Death with Dignity!” SO now we have changed BOTH ends of the argument. DO you NOT SEE WHAT THEY ARE DOING? They draw you in with on one issue, and then subtly change words, phrases, and definitions to end up in a TOTALLY different place! Don’t you remember those word games. You start with GAME then you go to LAME, then to LIME, then to LINE, and then you end up with LINK. See how this works?
And again, nowhere is that more urgent than in New York, which spends far more on long-term care than other states.
Albany, to be sure, is not unaware of the pricetag. But reforms have been meek.
This year, in his State of the State Address, Gov. Pataki announced "bold changes" to health care, including steps to encourage elderly and disabled patients to stay at home, rather than go to more expensive nursing homes and hospitals.
It sounded good; after all, many folks would rather remain home anyway if they could.
So what were the "bold" new initiatives?
A few million dollars in new spending — with uncertain savings on the other end.
Nor does Albany want to get serious about closing loopholes that allow even the not-so-poor to get long-term-care subsidies.
If nothing else, the Schiavo affair was about letting individuals and their families make the hard choices about their fates. Schiavo's parents fought relentlessly to keep their daughter alive. They opted to suffer — devoting endless days to visits, arranging care, fighting legal battles.
THEY OPTED TO SUFFER? YES! YES THEY OPTED TO SUFFER IN FIGHTING FOR LIFE, rather than SUFFER IN KNOWING THEY DID NOTHING TO STOP MICHAEL FROM KILLING HER! Actually, their FIRST step was back in 1993 to have Michael removed as guardian when he decided that all the money he got for her care was a WASTE on her. They began the fight for Terri in efforts to use the money awarded FOR HER CARE- to be spent ON HER CARE!
Some folks, by contrast, feel relief when a long-ill family member succumbs, mostly because the emotional strain ends. But expenses matter, too — or should. And if individuals and families are not responsible for costs, they'll never feel a need to have them stopped — no matter how hopeless the situation.
Here we go again. Adam changes the language. Now it is about succumbing. This makes you think he is talking about those on their death bed and the acceptance of imminent death. But ALL through this he is talking about the brain damaged, elderly, and those on LONG TERM CARE!
In an era when science allows incapacitated, brain-damaged patients to live for years on a feeding tube, governments — like the one in Albany — cannot afford to hand out blank checks.
SEE! Told ya!
Terri Schiavo reminded everyone that when it comes to care-dependent patients, public officials, too, must make some tough choices.
YES! AND THEY NEED TO CHOOSE LIFE!
IF THEY DON’T…. Tell me Adam;
9 Comments:
Shalom ~ Sherri, you are quite correct. A sad side note about individual patients, apart from society's view. I am not a medical professional. However, I do engage in patient services and visit with patients. I am noticing that even patients seem to have developed a complex about "not wanting to become a burden." An elderly gentleman just this past week said it quite casually. I told him: you are in the hospital to get well. It is our job to see that you recover! But he kept being concerned about not being a burden. So not only has society promoted this sick point of view, now individuals seem to be falling for it, and playing into the hands of those who think that unless a person is "perfect," they and others are better off if the person is dead. Shameful.
By Anonymous, at 10:37 PM
Chana
Thank you so very much for sharing that with us. That is SUCH a shame. I have such a heart for the elderly. I spent two years caring for an elderly woman that had had a stroke. She had a shunt implanted and lost her short term memory.
For two years I did all her shopping, her laundry, her meals, washed her hair, etc. Everyday when I made lunch, she would ask what we were having. I would say "Oh, today we're gonna have BBQ chicken, baked beans, and man n cheese." (or whatever we were having) She would say "Oh that sounds so good." about 5 mintutes later she would ask, "What are we having for dinner today?" EVERY time, I would answer her as if it were the first time she had asked. She usually asked at least 3 times.
Her family on the other hand were just rude. "MOM, She already told you what she was making." (when they were there)
Ticked me OFF! It wasn't her fault. SHe use to always say how she wished she wasn't "so much trouble" and how she didn't contribute anything. SHE contributed A LOT to my life.
It is VERY SAD!
LEVI
YOU ROCK!! Thanks for that info!!!
By Straight Up with Sherri, at 11:04 PM
Hmm...
Independence and self-reliance can, in the right environment and culture, give a person great advantage and strength throughout most of their lives.
When that person reaches their twilight years, it is unreasonable to expect them to change the independent will they've used all their life.
It's not "wrong" that some people reject relying on others when they're older. It's just who they are. Nobody's to blame, and odds are that that the person benefited greatly from that independence throughout their earlier years.
By Anonymous, at 2:22 AM
When that person reaches their twilight years, it is unreasonable to expect them to change the independent will they've used all their life.
What is UNREASONABLE is to look at people who have spent their lives contributing to our society and when they can no longer do so, consider them a burden! THEY ARE A GIFT! PERIOD! And if YOU or ANYONE else in their life doesn't amke that CLEAR to them- SHAME SHAME SHAME!
What is insulting- is to take THEIR MONEY form THEIR CHECKS that THEY earned for their WHOLE LIFE- stick it in a Medicare/Meidcaid fund- and then when THEY need to pull from it- say --NAAAH! Sorry- YOU aren't worth it!
In the "twilight" years, these people should finally be paid back for all THEY have given.
Death with DIGNITY? What is dignified about saying- "Hey- thanks for shelling your cash out for everyine else all your life- but now that YOU need it- buh, bye!"
This is when YOU should be treating them with TRUE DIGNITY! The dignity they deserve. LOVE THEM! SHERISH THEM! ADORE THEM! CARE FOR THEM! ANd ALWAYS LET THEM KNOW THAT IT IS OUR HONOR TO CARE FOR THEM! IT IS THE LEAST WE CAN DO-- AFTER ALL THEY HAVE GIVEN AND DONE! Let them know that THEY are IMPORTANT! THEY COUNT! THAT IS DIGNITY! THEY ARE JUST AS IMPORTANT AS AN OLYMPIC RUNNER- IF NOT MORE SO!
It's not "wrong" that some people reject relying on others when they're older. It's just who they are. Nobody's to blame, and odds are that that the person benefited greatly from that independence throughout their earlier years.
It's WRONG to LET THEM FEEL it is wrong to RELY on others. WE ARE TO BLAME IF THEY DON'T KNOW that WE ARE HONORED TO BE HTERE FOR THEM!
EVERYONE WANTS TO BE LOVED AND CARED FOR! NO MATTER WHAT THEY MAY SAY!
anon- YOUR life is a frickin' speck of sand on the BEACH in accordance to this world! It isn't about what YOU GET! It is about what YOU GIVE! TRY IT SOMETIME! If people around you- feel they are LOSING independence when receiving YOUR help- YOU ARE FAILING!!!!!! YOU AREN'T DOING IT RIGHT!
By Straight Up with Sherri, at 12:00 PM
Clearly you're emotionally charged about this issue, so I don't think the following statement will sink in with you. But anyway...
You cannot just foist on someone the desire or willingness to rely on others. If they truly don't want to go there, it is not your place to force it on them. It is their life, not yours. It's not about satisfying your own God-fearing desires.
We all have personal liberty that should be respected.
By Anonymous, at 1:00 PM
Emotionally charged?
Are you kidding?
When do you leave emotions out of this?
YES! Emotionally charged! You make that sound like a BAD thing.....
I would say- lack of emotion and compassion is a WEAKNESS- so to each their own. I am PROUD to be on this side of the fence. VERY PROUD!
It SINKS in - just fine. I DISAGREE WITH YOU! I know that is hard for you to handle- but that is a FACT! I get what you're saying- Just think you are wrong.
You cannot just foist on someone the desire or willingness to rely on others. If they truly don't want to go there, it is not your place to force it on them. It is their life, not yours. It's not about satisfying your own God-fearing desires.
You make my case. THANK YOU! I have yet to FORCE anyone to rely on me- except maybe my children! Not about my God-fearing desires? FIrst of all- I don't FEAR my GOD! I FEAR MAN! MAN WITHOUT A SENSE OF TRUE RIGHT ANS WRONG!
As you accuse me of bringing my "baggage" to the table- sweetie- notice YOU have brought yours. DO you know for a fact that God does or does not exist? NO! SO you have "faith" that your beliefs are right.
One day we will know. And if I am wrong- I WILL HAVE NO REGRETS! If you are wrong- I wonder if you will feel the same.
I STAND BY MY CLAIM, It is OUR job- not only to care for the infirm, elderly and handicapped- and if you care them in a way that they don't feel it is a sincere want and desire- YOU ARE FAILING THEM! Much the same way parents fail their children if their children don't FEEL that their parents ENJOYED caring for them.
It is MY gift and MY Passion to care for others. I am sure You have wonderful gifts I lack- so stick to your gifts- I will stick to mine.
But don't accuse me of bringing my baggage to the table as you bring your own.
A discussion without compassion is useless. as Dee has so eloquently pointed out. You clearly don't understand MY relationship with God- but that's okay- not for YOU to understand. But you might want to refrain from claiming you do.
Glad to have you share your thoughts (and feelings? oh, no that's right- they have no business in the discussion.)
Thanks for making my point.
We are truly headed towards Hitler's T-4-- YOU MAKE THIS CLEAR! THANKS!
By Straight Up with Sherri, at 1:47 PM
I respect Sherri for bringing the truth to the table. If some ignorant, idiotic people can't handle it, I believe there is no sense trying to make them understand...because they chose to be forever ignorant and idiotic.
By Anonymous, at 3:28 PM
"Not about my God-fearing desires? FIrst of all- I don't FEAR my GOD!"
At first I thought "Sherri must be making a sarcastic play on words." But then the horror sank in and I realized that you don't know what "God-fearing" means. Oh my goodness. Look it up, it doesn't mean what you think it does.
I just couldn't take anything seriously after you committed that blunder.
By Anonymous, at 12:44 AM
Great Work Sherri. I live in NYS. I am also Disabled. Maybe I should leave! Before they come for me! (oops someone knockin at my door?)
By KC, at 5:43 PM
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