Straight Up with Sherri

Monday, April 04, 2005

THAT'S IT! I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!

I just HAVE to hear it. C'mon, I want to hear the trolls explain just a FEW THINGS!

How do you HONESTLY believe that Terri WANTED to be dehydrated and starved to death? I really WANT TO KNOW! Because MICHAEL said so? Do your homework! Michael has LIED on the stand. Lied in the media. Hid a bone scan showing that Terri had 13 bone fractures and a "history of trauma" (scan was done in 1991, but the Schindlers never knew about it until 2002). Never asked question one about HOW Terri (the woman he loves so dearly) got 13 bone fractures! NO INVESTIGATION for Mr Malpractice Suit?! Never even MENTIONED it to the Schindlers, even though he was LIVING with them at the time! Never even asked, "Hey did you ever see any of the doctors or nurses drop Terri?" I would say that warrants a removal as guardian at the VERY LEAST!

Michael went shopping funeral homes and burial plots once he learned Terri had a urinary tract infection(see thread below for interviews with Bobby Schindler). Yes, back when he ordered them NOT to treat her for the infection. The same kind of infection that took the life of the Pope. Yes, untreated it can lead to death. KNOWING this, Michael ordered that Terri NOT be given the antibiotics needed to treat it. He not only admits it under oath, but goes on to explain that he was informed this was against the law to refuse her the antibiotics. He should have been removed as her guardian RIGHT THEN AND THERE! He also admits that because it was against the law was the ONLY reason he allowed them to treat her for it.

Michael wanted to become a nurse to CARE for Terri. Well, going to school for nursing- he should have been the FIRST ONE DEMANDING THAT TERRI get range of motion therapy! GOOD GRIEF! Even if you think she will never come out of it, YOU DON'T DENY RANGE OF MOTION! THAT IS BEYOND CRUEL!!!!! STRIKE THREE- NO WAY THIS MAN SHOULD BE GUARDIAN OF A DOG, LET ALONE A HANDICAPPED WOMAN!

Oh, that's right, Michaels brother and sister-in-law also said they remembered Terri didn't want to be on "artificial life support." Hmmmm, funny no, no they did not. At least not at first. But then neither did Michael say it at first. Michael waited until he was engaged to remember she didn't want to live this way. If you do your homework, you will find that the GAL (guardian ad litem) assigned to Terri back in 1998 found that Michael had a few conflicts of interest and was not reliable as to Terri's wishes. The GAL, Pearson, was alarmed by Michael's benefits of Terri's death, his new fiance, and the chronology of his "memory" of what Terri's "wishes" were. Once Pearson submitted his report- - IN WRITING-Felos immediatly filed for Pearson to be dismissed because he was "biased." HUH? Of course, Greer not only dismissed Pearson, but then assigned HIMSELF as GAL for Terri. This is AGAINST Florida Canons. Even better, it was after this report that more people with the last name Schiavo suddenly had miraculous memories of how Terri "wanted" to die.


Terri was shoved into a HOSPICE when she was NOT terminal- and Michael's attorney JUST HAPPENED TO BE ON THE BOARD!

AND US EEEVIL PRO-LIFERS ARE THE ONES MAKING UP CONSPIRACY?

WE ARE THE ONES WITH ILL INTENT?

WE ARE THE ONES PUSHING OUR WILL ONTO OTHERS???

TAKE A CLOSER LOOK! IT IS MICHAEL WHO PUSHED HIS WILL ON TERRI!

WE ARE THE WACKED OUT RELIGIOUS ZEALOTS? HAVE YOU READ FELOS' BOOK?

FELOS AND GREER WERE TOO HAPPY TO HELP!

THEY ALL HAVE DIFFERENT REASONS; BUT TO THEM, IT WAS NEVER ABOUT WHAT TERRI WANTED!

SADLY ENOUGH, TO MOST OF AMERICA IT WAS NEVER ABOUT WHAT TERRI WANTED. IT WAS USUALLY ABOUT HOW THEY WOULDN'T WANT TO LIVE THAT WAY, POLITICS, MEDIA, OR A POWER STRUGGLE BETWEEN THE 3 BRANCHES OF GOV'T.

SOMEHOW, TERRI GOT LOST IN THIS WHOLE THING. LITERALLY, TERRI GOT LOST.

AMERICA ONCE SAID, "GIVE US YOUR TIRED, YOUR POOR, YOUR HUDDLED MASSES." AMERICA NOW SAYS, GIVE US THE LAWBREAKERS SNEAKING ACROSS THE BORDER, WE'LL PROTECT THEM, WE'LL FIGHT FOR THEM, BUT DON'T GIVE US YOUR HANDICAPPED.

THE JUDICIAL BRANCH GAVE A LECTURE TO CONGRESS AND THE PRESIDENT? THIS WAS THE SADDEST THING I HAVE EVER SEEN IN AMERICA, SHORT OF 9/11. THEY CITE WHAT OUR FOREFATHERS WANTED? AS EARLY AS 1801, THOMAS JEFFERSON WARNED US AGAINST THE RULE OF FEW BY THE JUDICIARY. IF THERE IS ONE THING I KNOW FOR CERTAIN- OUR FOREFATHERS WOULD HAVE STARTED A MOVEMENT AGAINST A GOV'T THAT DID WHAT THEY DID TO TERRI, AND IT WOULD NOT HAVE STARTED WITH A TEA PARTY.

79 Comments:

  • i too have had a similar disturbing conversation with members of my family.. and i pass on to you what was told me after they gave their opinion on it.. saying that "she is at fault for marrying such a man".. "she was a vegatable".. "its her parents who were hard on mr. schiavo".. "who would want to live like that?" ..yada, yada, yada.. and i began to tell them what the media did not say.. one gave her final words on it.. "well. the important thing is that she's now in a better place (so your opinion/views dont matter..just calm down and get over it)."
    who knows why some people would rather see things from such a media bias point of view? who knows why people just dont want to see the other side of the story?
    you'd think that they'd relate to the injustice done terri.. but for some reason they choose not to.
    omiblogspirit@yahoo.com

    By Anonymous jianra, at 6:36 AM  

  • And those are the nicer ones, jianra. At least you might be able to say they're ignorant, or choose to be that way. Then, there are others who love evil things and thrive on them. Evil things such as an innocent woman being sentenced to a cruel death - all for the sin of being disabled. They're the 'Pull the Plug' people that Peggy Noonan wrote about in her article "In Love With Death" which can be found at this address: http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=110006460.

    By Blogger Jill, at 9:22 AM  

  • Truer words have not been spoken. What Michael did was not about Terri at all. He just wanted to get rid of his disabled wife to marry the mistress.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:32 AM  

  • For someone with not much new to say, you do spend a whole lot of time saying it. She's dead,and the pro-lifers can move on to feast on the next corpse for their publicity, and the pope's death has wiped her from the news cycle. In a month, no-one will care but the same people that cared before, and they have already been been proved toothless. The majority has spoken, and to be homest, we've heard it all before, and we just don't care.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:51 PM  

  • Anonymous @ 3:51,
    You are wrong when you say, " In a month, no-one will care but the same people that cared before. This story is not going to go away any more than Roe v Wade did (as the leftists predicted it would). We are talking about life versus death. We want life, you want death. Most people, given the choice with regard to themselves would choose life.
    We do not live in a "majority has spoken" society, or tyrants like George Greer would be toothless and lynchings would be commonplace.
    The "culture of life" did not save the life of Terri, that is true. But then, the "culture of life" did not save the life of Jesus Christ, either. He conquered death then, and He will conquer death now.

    I can easily see that you do not care about truth or life. But you do care about something, or you wouldn't even be here commenting. What is it, really?

    By Blogger Right Wing Nut Job, at 4:29 PM  

  • You look at how many people voted for John Kerry and realize that brain damage must be a common problem. BTW I heard news that he did sign the Form-180. So has any proof that he had a less than honorable discharge finally come to light yet? As for Terri I totally agree with Sherri and her death only strengthens our resolve to shine the light of day on this tragedy and others who have been mudered by the culture of death.

    By Blogger Alnot, at 6:22 PM  

  • i totally agree with sherri and couldnt of said it better my self..but have been saying all the same things for while now it makes me so angry that he got away with all this him and greer, all of them who helped michael to kill terri..it makes me sick.. i cant believe this was allowed to happen in america.. it a sad sad day for america when something like this can happen.. an innocent woman was killed becaused she was brain damaged not brain dead not even close. michael and the judge and his lawyer as well should all be arrested for murder and sentanced to the same death they caused Terri to die of. i have to say right now i am ashamed of what was allowed to happen to this woman..in AMERICA .. i dont believe for a min.. everything was done in attempt to save her life that there was nothing more that could be done. If that were true,this country is in serious trouble. And i am affraid.
    i have a disability, i cannot work, there are many things i cant do, is my life in danger, am i next? Where does it or will it stop?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:43 PM  

  • Can someone file a suit against the Facility terri was when the bone fractures showed up? There has got to be someone out there that could do that?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:55 PM  

  • anonymous -- only Michael Schiavo can file a suit on behalf of Terri. And the statute of limitations is long past. The courts are not the answer here -- as they have never been for Terri.

    By Blogger levi from queens, at 10:00 PM  

  • The initial event that disabled Terri Schiavo didn't end up killing her. But in her obituary notice, what will the cause of death read? Will it read: murder? It should. The heart attack that disabled her didn't doom her; a husband without a heart did.
    Sherri you posted this!!!
    And this!!!
    Terri NEVER HAS A HEART ATTACK! Good Grief why do you insist on showing your ignorence?

    explain please.

    By Anonymous ylb, at 11:08 PM  

  • YLB

    OH, THANK YOU!! GOOD CATCH!

    I am amazed at how much I have learned about this case. I DID think she had a heart attack. WHY? Because that is what all the media had said. I have learned a LOT by reading the transcripts and documents, etc.

    Heck, I didn't even realize there was a difference between a heart attack and cardiac arrest. THERE IS! According to Terri's potassium levels- it was impossible for her to have had a heart attack. This is just one of the things that media has been getting wrong all along.

    I knew the media was not always accurate, but still believed that she had a heart attack until I started doing more research. When I started this journey, I believed she was PVS, also. I believed she was in a coma.

    I had no idea about the bone scan.

    What disturbed me about Terri's case and got me involved was the fact that Michael would not let Terri have a swallow test. This was the RED FLAG for me. It wasn't until I started reading the documents and transcripts that I started to learn more.

    Thank you for pointing this out!

    It truly puts into perspective exactly HOW MUCH I HAVE LEARNED!

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 11:31 PM  

  • I also want to apologize for the fact that Blogger is having difficulties...AGAIN! Sorry folks...

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 11:32 PM  

  • Sherri, I commend you for speaking out so passionately for Terri. I really wish I could put into words how heartwrenching this has been. I wish I could have done more.

    Do you know if it's true that Michael had Terri's cat euthanized shortly after her collapse?

    - Snowdancer

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:00 AM  

  • Sherri I once knew you as a smart person that was very fair. What has pushed you over that edge? Really I want to know what pushed you over (I am not trying to be a smartass). What I mean is at one point in time you could look at anything and say, side "a" has these good points yada yada yada. Side "b" has these good points... and go from there. Now you can't seem to do that anymore. You are blinded to one side. Y have always gone overboard to prove a point as long as I have know you but at one point in time you could go overboard but still keep your head on straight. You have lost that I am afraid and it is to bad you could get you point across beter when you were like that.

    By Anonymous ylb, at 12:08 AM  

  • Sherri,

    Let me start out by saying that I have totally supported the Schindlers throughout this whole ordeal (and still do), but you've posted something that disturbs me.

    You have a link in this post ("He not only admits it under oath")to a deposition of Michael Schiavo dated November 19, 1993. From page 38, line 16 to page 40, line 14, Michael discusses a conversation he had with Terri regarding Grandmother Schindler (who had been in a coma) and her uncle Fred, who was in a car accident, and after coming out of a coma, was disabled. According to Michael's testimony, Terri said she would rather die than live like that.

    One of the articles of faith of the let-Terri-live movement has been that Michael didn't "remember" Terri's wishes to die until seven years after she was striken (after he received the malpractice judgment and was already living with his fiance/girlfriend Jodi)and it was only a casual comment about a movie. This deposition testimony indicates that he "remembered" her wishes in much greater detail at least as early as 1993, some four years earlier.

    This by no means gets Michael off the hook, but it makes me wonder how many other "facts" of this case are in question. Primary sources (such as deposition testimony, medical records, affidavits, etc.) are hard to refute. Let's see some sources that prove up Terri's case. I still believe they are out there, but I have to admit, my faith has been shaken somewhat by the '93 Michael Schaivo deposition testimony.

    By Blogger Curious Texan, at 12:08 AM  

  • Snowdancer,

    A LOT of us wish we could have done more. It has changed many of us forever... My life ambitions have changed.

    According to the court transcrpits in the Guardian case (Nov 19, 1993) Michael admits he had BOTH of Terri's cats euthanized..

    According to Bobby Schindler, the Schindlers offered to take Terri's cats in and take care of them, but Michael refused and insisted on euthanizing them.

    I had heard reports that Michael, Greer, and Jodi all had there parents "unplugged" per se- but I never even bothered to verify those things- I don't think they are important to Terri's case.

    But I do think the fact that he killed Terri's cats, after her parents offered to take them in is very relevant to the type of person that Michael is....

    Thank you for coming by....

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 12:09 AM  

  • YLB

    You disagree with me, fine. Over the edge? Hmmmmm, over the edge when? on what?

    If thinking that starving someone to death is wrong makes me over the edge- thank God I am there.

    As far as looking at side A and B, etc...

    There is no way in THIS case, to convince me that Michael is a PROPER Guardian. He has been a horrible caretaker. According to Florida Law- He was her Guardian, but as soon as he broke the laws that guardians are required to live up to as guardians- he should have been removed. This case has taught me a LOT about how many times the wards' interests are not the main issue in the courts. It is HORRIBLE! We just don't know about them until we start looking into it.

    If you have personal issues with me, stop hiding behind a computer screen, pick up the phone and call me

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 12:18 AM  

  • Don't get me wrong I dont have a personal anything against you. I was just asking. I feel that He should have passed it over to her parents when he had had given up hope. Over the edge? YES. you have compared this great country to Hitler, yes thats over the edge what I am trying to point out is stuff like Curious Texan just posted thats a good valid point but you wil dismiss it like you do any good points that don't fit into your way of thinking.

    By Anonymous ylb, at 12:27 AM  

  • And people everyday are starved to death on purpose I do think it is not the best way to go but I understand it. Before you blow up let me explain. If I was in the same state as Terri was I would not want to go on. I am not saying she did or didn't because truth is you and I will never know for sure. But I wouldn't want to live. I would rather have someone just inject me with whatever it takes to take me then and there but thats not how they do it. Mabey because they don't want to have the person giving it to me to have to live with that, I don't know the reason but starving is how they do it.

    By Anonymous ylb, at 12:33 AM  

  • How would you propose they take my life if that was my wish and i was in her condition?

    By Anonymous ylb, at 12:37 AM  

  • curious Texan

    I see exactly what you are talking about. I read that also. He never says that Terri didn't want FOOD AND WATER. THIS IS WHAT THE CORNERSTONE IS! That caused me some confusion, until I read Pearson's (the GAL appointed in 1998 for Terri) report.

    Michael claimed Terri said "no tubes for me," According to Felos. Notice the wording. Terri's situation is NOT like that of Grandma. This is why the wording had to be "change."

    See- back when Michael says Terri said that- food and water was not considered life support, if he would have even suggested that he was thinking about removing her feeding tube (As much as I don't like or trust Michael- I honestly don't believe that he intended to remove her feeding tube in 1993) he would have lost the fight to remain on as guardian. Back in 1993- that would have NOT been acceptable. SO it was not an issue. He also claims in this same document that he could never do that to Terri.(remove her feeding tube.) Many don't realize that this was brought up in the guardianship case in 1993. He said plainly- that he couldn't do that to Terri, but yet- after he was engaged to Jodi- everything changed. Suddenly he remembered that she said "not tubes for me." He never brought that up before- NEVER.

    This is key- because in 1995- Debrah Bushnell started to look into removing her feeding tube. She started consulting Felos. In 1998, they hired Felos- Felos filed to have her tube removed. In 1999 Legislation was passed to make hydration and food "life support."

    Note Pearson's report was in 1998- which shows that things in court were moving slowly. Felos was instrumental in lobbying for that 1999 Legistlation.

    If you follow the chronology and read ALL the documents- you see that Michael NEVER said that Terri did not want food and hydration until Felos came on, etc. I know it seems confusing- but unfortunately it is.

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 12:37 AM  

  • ylb @ 12:37
    How would you propose they take my life if that was my wish and i was in her condition?

    Old Age!

    By Blogger Right Wing Nut Job, at 12:45 AM  

  • RWNJ I am asking if I didnt want to live like that and I didnt want to die of old age how should they carry out my wish?

    By Anonymous ylb, at 12:47 AM  

  • YLB

    I know people are getting upset over the reference to Hitler. Plaese take note- I do not think we are headed to DEATH CAMPS- We are headed towards the T-4 program.

    If you read about what happened in Germany- you'll realize that the T-4 program was LEGAL. It was very LEGAL. Hitler implemented this program. It was first "sold" as a money issue. Germany was in dire straits economically. I Don't believe America would ever get someone like Hitler in office- but I do think we Americans are coming way too softened to the idea of "quality of life," being a factor for "euthanizing" people WITHOUT THEIR WRITTEN CONSENT!

    I HATE the idea of people being pulled off of a machine, but if THEY CHOOSE it, BEYOND DOUBT it is THEIR choice- I don't see where it is MY business to stop it. But this whole Terri case stinks from beginning to end. There are way tooooooo many questions and WRONG things done to her for her to be starved and dehydrated to death.... To me- There is NO clear and convincing evidence, and her husband should have lost guardinship as soon as HE stopped therapy for her. Usually it is a DOCTOR that orders therapy to stop- because THEY see no hope. But it was Michale who stopped therapy. PLUS- You DON'T stop Range of motion- that is soooo cruel..

    I mean- through it all-- I really think no matter how WE feel, bottom line should be that with so much doubt- she should NEVER have been dehydrated and starved to death...

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 12:49 AM  

  • ylb
    Are you asking me how you should end your life if you want to commit suicide?
    I don't believe in suicide. I consider it murder. I am not a good one to ask that question.

    By Blogger Right Wing Nut Job, at 12:50 AM  

  • How would you propose they take my life if that was my wish and i was in her condition?

    OH MY! I don't have an answer for that. I honestly don't... If you wished to die in that situation, I have no idea the best way to do that. I would have to give that to someone else to decide.

    I know I couldn't be the one to give the shot, or whatever they do. I understand they actually just inject drugs into an IV and withing 18 hours it's over- BUT- I could be wrong.. That is just a terrible place to be..

    And I pray you have a LONG, HAPPY, AND HEALTHY LIFE!

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 12:53 AM  

  • RWNJ who has the right to tell me I cant take my own life? NOT THAT I WANT TO!!!! just asking

    By Anonymous ylb, at 12:56 AM  

  • RWNJ who has the right to tell me I cant take my own life? NOT THAT I WANT TO!!!! just asking

    12:56 AM

    OHH OHH!!

    CAN I??? CAN I??? CAN I ANSWER THAT ONE??? (throwing my hand in the air and grunting like Arnold Horseshack)

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 12:59 AM  

  • I guess what I am trying to say is that hmmm how do i put this lol. ok I got it if Terri did have a written living will(believe it or not I think it should be law that no life support should be stopped unless you have a living will in writing)saying she wouldn't want to go on like that. Then how should it have been done?

    By Anonymous ylb, at 1:03 AM  

  • Please do answer that.

    By Anonymous ylb, at 1:04 AM  

  • CAN I??? CAN I??? CAN I ANSWER THAT ONE??? (throwing my hand in the air and grunting like Arnold Horseshack)

    12:59 AM

    opps forgot to paste this part

    By Anonymous ylb, at 1:04 AM  

  • ylb,
    I didn't say you couldn't commit suicide. I do have the right to tell you that because the Bill of Rights guarantees my God-given right to say it.
    However, I think your question deals with the issue of control. That you would have to take up with the several States. Only in Oregon can anyone assist you, but there are 5 other States that will let you do it by yourself.
    I personally want you to live a long time. You contribute a lot of interesting thoughts.

    By Blogger Right Wing Nut Job, at 1:05 AM  

  • You can't take your own life because the constitution says so.

    Life is an INALIABLE RIGHT. Which means it is not GIVEN BY MAN AND CANNOT BE TAKEN AWAY BY MAN...

    that's as simple as it is... you may disagree with weather you have the right ot or not- but according to the Constitution, we don't have that right...

    which leads to the death panalty thing-- but that's another thread... one day...

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 1:08 AM  

  • ylb,
    I got it if Terri did have a written living will(believe it or not I think it should be law that no life support should be stopped unless you have a living will in writing)saying she wouldn't want to go on like that. Then how should it have been done?
    .
    Start by recognizing that I think it is disgusting. Nonetheless, such a person should be required to move (legally) to a venue where it is permitted. Since a Florida will would likely not be accepted in Oregon, I guess there is a dilemma, here. But I'm not a lawyer. I don't know.

    By Blogger Right Wing Nut Job, at 1:09 AM  

  • I don't think It should be against the law. NOT THAT I WANT TO KILL MYSELF LOL. Believe it or not I am not MR. Government Is Always Right. They piss me off as much as they piss some of you off. Just wanted your thoughs

    By Anonymous ylb, at 1:10 AM  

  • I personally want you to live a long time. You contribute a lot of interesting thoughts.

    LOL!!

    I was just thinking about how glad I am that YLB comes here too. YLB challenges me to be better- much like you do RWNJ

    I LIKE THAT!

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 1:10 AM  

  • So the Government says I can't!! Well piss on them lol. THen doesn't a living will saying I dont want to be kept alive basicaly saying I want you to kill me I see a conflict there. P.S. A man did give me life a man and a women. (my father , the best damn man I have ever known)

    By Anonymous ylb, at 1:14 AM  

  • Well I am glad to be here.
    thanks.

    By Anonymous ylb, at 1:17 AM  

  • YLB

    well, according to the Constitution anyway...

    There are a lot of laws that seem to be UnConstitutional though...

    My Dad is the best man I have ever known also. Not my biological Dad- not that I am dissing him- but the man who raised me-- HE IS THE BEST!

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 1:18 AM  

  • Oh, and RWNJ-- YOU ARE IN THE TOP TEN ALSO!! LOL!!

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 1:20 AM  

  • ylb,
    So the Government says I can't!!

    I am going to have to see if I can find it, but years ago there there was a one-panel cartoon that showed a fellow atop a tall building, ostensibly preparing to jump.
    In the street below was a van (of the SWAT type), marked "Suicide Prevention Squad". Next to the van was a policeman with a scoped rifle, shooting the poor guy off the top of the building.
    How does the government stop you? The truth is they probably can't or won't.

    By Blogger Right Wing Nut Job, at 1:20 AM  

  • Start by recognizing that I think it is disgusting.
    Do you mean A person chosing to die? healthy or not?
    just a question.

    By Anonymous ylb, at 1:20 AM  

  • I always heard that suicide is against the law, but I also always thought that this was the case due ot (1) THE cONSTITUTION, and (2) So they can "order" you to be get therapy or "help."

    that's just my take on it....

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 1:23 AM  

  • Sounds like a funny cartoon I did always find it funny how it is agaisnt the law but if you do it right they cant punish you.
    Just as a side note Over the past few weeks I too like so many find it hard to follow all the anon people (who is who) "other" is also anon (as you well know
    ) but less mindnumbing mabey just take anon away make them go under other.

    By Anonymous ylb, at 1:26 AM  

  • I stand corrected-- It is NOT the Constitution-- it is the Declaration of Independence, BTW

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 1:29 AM  

  • ylb,
    Do you mean A person chosing to die? healthy or not?

    No, I think there are times when that choice is made. It is my participation that I find disgusting. I cannot bring myself to provide guidance or consolation in this case. Love, respect, and advice, yes - but I would be morally driven to direct someone to seek help in a direction other than suicide. I think all of us have had friends or family who have committed suicide and understand what a devastating situation it causes.

    By Blogger Right Wing Nut Job, at 1:32 AM  

  • Just as a side note Over the past few weeks I too like so many find it hard to follow all the anon people (who is who) "other" is also anon (as you well know
    ) but less mindnumbing mabey just take anon away make them go under other.

    You are soo not the first person tot ell me that...I have to admit-- I have been a little stubborn on not taking out the anon...

    I will consider it... I just really don't want to disuade people from sharing....I will reconsider it.. if I can even figure out how to change it... RWNJ may be the one to figure that out... I am a technical idiot...

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 1:33 AM  

  • RWNJ I have to agree with you on that I think suicide is a selfish act. I would always hope people would get help before even thinkimg of it. I just find it funny how the Goverment tries to say I have no right to decide my own fate.
    Sherri I see what you mean but the other option is just as good as Anon people still dont know who you are.

    By Anonymous ylb, at 1:37 AM  

  • I have been a little stubborn
    You????!!!!!!?????
    NOOOOOOOOO NEVER !!!!!!!!!
    Bite your tounge!!!
    lol

    By Anonymous ylb, at 1:40 AM  

  • I have been a little stubborn
    You????!!!!!!?????
    NOOOOOOOOO NEVER !!!!!!!!!
    Bite your tounge!!!
    lol

    LOL!! I prefer to think of it as loyal to my convictions... LOL!!

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 1:42 AM  

  • Also not sure if this is a free site for you to run or not but what about a chat room? Is that feasable? (sp? again)

    By Anonymous ylb, at 1:42 AM  

  • Sherri,
    Stubbornness like mispelling is all part of you mystique and charm!

    By Blogger Right Wing Nut Job, at 1:44 AM  

  • LOL!! I prefer to think of it as loyal to my convictions... LOL!!
    Being loyal is great! But listening and learning and keeping an open mind is good also at times.

    By Anonymous ylb, at 1:44 AM  

  • yes-- this is a free site....

    That is why the servie is so bad....

    but the price is right..

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 1:45 AM  

  • LOL
    true

    By Anonymous ylb, at 1:46 AM  

  • Sherri Tell me a little about t-4 and how we are headed there I have to say I don't know 100% what you mean . I think it is for lack of better words animal testing on humans.

    By Anonymous ylb, at 1:49 AM  

  • Sherri,
    Stubbornness like mispelling is all part of you mystique and charm!

    Glad you think it is charming!

    (BTW did you mean part of youR charm?.. just asking! LOL!)

    Being loyal is great! But listening and learning and keeping an open mind is good also at times.

    Ya know This entire journey has taught me more than I could ever put into wors. I tried to. I turned the monitor off and just typed away about all I have learned. about 3o mintes later- I had only scratched the surface. Sometimes it takes me a while- but I usually can get there. I go kicking and screaming- but I do get there much of the time. IN fact- I was originally FOR the death penalty- Terri's case has changed that.. RWNJ and I have talked about that...in fact- I am not sure he knows I have actually changed my mind on that-- THIS IS ONLY ONE part of how much I have changed in the last couple of months. As I write- I learn far more than I actually share with anyone..

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 1:53 AM  

  • I'm sure you will find this hard to believe but I am not against what you are doing at all. I am more upset at the way you do it. I think there are some people that listen to things said here that are "on the fence". You once said that anyone that doesnt take action to save Terri is as bad as someone watching a trainful of jews go by to thier death. And many things of this type and all that does is piss people off. I for one love a good debate but thats not a way to get a point across mudslinging ect......

    By Anonymous ylb, at 2:01 AM  

  • Hitler's T-4 program...

    First-there was a movie- (back in 1932) called "I Accuse" I haven't seen the movie- but I hear it was like "milllion dollar baby"-- pro- euthanasia.


    then, when Hitler was in power, it started when economists started to "publicize" that it cost 6.5 marks/day to care for the mentally and physically handicap, but a working man- supporting a family of four- made 4- 4.5 marks/day. In Germany, at the time- they were going through economic chaos... People were scared.

    "The state spends far more for the existence of these actually worthless compatriots than for the salary of a healthy man, who must bring up a healthy family,' and hinted that it was too bad that a more radical program than sterilization could not be employed."


    Hitler did not "pass a law" making killing the handicapped legal- but what he DID do, was write a letter on his personal stationary to 2 doctors. They wouldn't so what he wanted without protection- so he wrote the letter. It gave THESE TwO DOCTORS the power to "decide" what lives were worth living and which ones weren't.

    ADOLF HITLER
    Berlin, 1 September 1939
    Reichsleiter Bouhler and
    Dr. med. Brandt
    are instructed to broaden the powers of physicians designated by name, who will decide whether those who have - as far as can be humanly determined - incurable illnesses can, after the most careful evaluation, be granted a mercy death.
    /signed/ Adolf Hitler



    Between December 1939 and August 1941, about 50,000 to 60,000 Germans children and adults were secretly killed by lethal injections or in gassing installations designed to look like shower stalls. It was a foretaste of Auschwitz. The victims were taken from the medical institution and put to death....

    Never to Forget - New York:HarperCollins, 1976

    then there is also THIS LINK:
    HERE

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 2:14 AM  

  • I see now. I have to disagree I dont think we are headed there.
    thats going a little far. but thanks for the info.

    By Anonymous ylb, at 2:22 AM  

  • You once said that anyone that doesnt take action to save Terri is as bad as someone watching a trainful of jews go by to thier death. And many things of this type and all that does is piss people off. I for one love a good debate but thats not a way to get a point across mudslinging

    I understand how people can feel that way... But I have to say- I am devasted by how many people have "signed on" to saying that what happened to Terri is okay- WITHOUT looking into it.

    To me, after reading about Hitler's T-4 program, and just doing nothing- it puts us back there. I mean many people just don't care. First they came for the Jews...

    The problem is that we are not educated about Hitler enough. He didn't come for the Jews first, AND he was NEVER elected... but people don't know this.....

    Maybe it is over the top to some-- But to me it is just heartwrenching.. I am so shocked at how many people really don't know how close we are to literally ending up in a place where are kids will look back and say, "How did they let this happen?"

    I am passionate about this...

    It HURTS to see how many Don't see it- and really don't bother to look. I have a stronger reaction than most- but it is because of the research I have done.. not because I am WHACK-- although I am a little WHACK too.... Shhhhh.......

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 2:23 AM  

  • this is also why RWNJ and I work so well together--- I am the emotion- he is the brains.

    So to speak

    This blog is really a TEAM effort-- I keep telling RWNJ that we need to change the name-- but he "likes" it...

    I'll win him over sooner or later...

    LOL!!

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 2:32 AM  

  • I am tired lol. I don't think we are headed there. It seems to me people are useing this case to try and say thats where were going but as an outsider who has not looked into it as much as others but more then many, I think its more of a case that the right thinks micheal is a liar and wanted more to be done (not saying they are wrong or right). And the other side has thinks that the judges sided with Micheal and the court appointed Dr. and they are ok with the judges ruling. It is been fought for years in court. It is not like someone stood up and said she is costing me to much money kill her and anyone else like her. I personally am for living wills and the fact that it has to be in writing. I heard not to long ago about a women whos child was taken off life support because the All the Drs. invloved said there was no hope (I am sketchy on the details) and the women went to court and lost. that is disturbing to me unlike this case. sorry.

    By Anonymous ylb, at 2:38 AM  

  • I soooo should be in bed by now!

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 2:40 AM  

  • LOL me too.
    I will see you around im sure goodnight Sherri Lynn

    By Anonymous ylb, at 2:42 AM  

  • YLB

    I need to get ot bed too- but I know the case you are talking about-- it was in Texas-- VERY SAD!

    I haven't looked into it yet- was so busy on Terri..

    This really did look like a right and left thing to me (the Terri case) until about a week ago-- then I saw it a bit differently. The problem is that Terri's case will be a precedent. If you look at Felos;' record (the Browning case) you will see where I get that idea too- not that you will agree- but you will see where I get that idea.

    The "right" has helped chug along the "pro-death" culture too. I am so RIPPED at them over the ENTIRE Tort Reform thing I could SCREAM!

    There is NOTHING about THEIR version of tort reform that is CONSERVATIVE! They just buckled to insurance agencies and doctors-- the $$$$$$$ talked for them...

    ARRRG!

    gotta get some sleep

    Thank you for the opportunity to exchange thoughts!

    I REALLY ENJOYED IT!!

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 2:47 AM  

  • ylb,
    It has been a good evening of discussion. I have never claimed that I think Michael Schiavo is a liar. I personally believe that he is more of a patsy or pawn, being manipulated by very powerful and effective people and events in his life. I don't think he wielded any power over his own decisions in recent years. In fact, Judge Greer even began making decisions for Michael late in the case, rather than just supporting Michael's decisions.
    I am not trying to vindicate Michael. I just believe this whole thing is a lot bigger than he, or Terri, or us.

    Regarding Straight Up With Sherri, who would have even been aware of the Whig Party had it not been for the brilliant leadership and symbolic figurehead of John Adams?

    Good night, all.

    By Blogger Right Wing Nut Job, at 2:48 AM  

  • Me too. to both of you. Good night all!!

    By Anonymous ylb, at 2:51 AM  

  • Why an I here ? Just surfing around from blogsforteri.com. I have to admit, I've found the whole thing highly entertaining while it was going on, but it's gone from the news cycle now, and gone from the minds of the public, and it seems, from your politicians.

    Now we see the very senators that were all over this issue trying to score points with you, deserting you now and declaring the judiciary fair and independant. When will you pro-lifers realise that you've been duped again ? The GOP come around for your votes every two years, and like you always do, you line up behind them. And what do you get for that ? The GOP owns the White House, the congress, and most of the judiciary, and not only have they not passed any meaningful pro-life laws, they are now removing the Reagan era laws about funding restrictions for health organisations that provide abortions.

    We didn't really care about Terri Schiavo, we just enjoyed the spectacle. Now the Pope has the news cycle, then it will be the next thing. All that's left is the same hard core of people that cared in the first place, marginalised and ignored by the courts and their congress again. If you guys can't get pro-life legislation passed when you own all the branches of the government, then I wouldn't get too excited about your influence.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:05 PM  

  • anon

    APPLAUSE APPLAUSE!

    I agree with ALL YOU SAID, EXCEPT:

    then I wouldn't get too excited about your influence.

    OUR "influence" WILL BE FELT! Otherwise you wouldn't even bother commenting.

    While it was a "spectacle" to some, to those truly pro-life- it IS a worthy cause.

    TAKE NOTE! Terri may have physically beened turned into ashes, but they will NEVER CREMATE OUR CAUSE, RESOLVE, OR BELIEFS!

    NEVER!

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 3:19 PM  

  • We as americans have to take this situation sort out our feelings, and make sure that this kind of thing does not happen again. If we let this situation just past by the the whole thing has been a waste. Write your congresman and get something moving.

    GCD8348

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