Straight Up with Sherri

Friday, March 25, 2005

TERRI DENIED HER RIGHT TO LIFE



Judge Whittemore has DENIED the motion to re-insert Terri's feeding tube.



62 Comments:

  • It is Good Friday morning. What a mournful and desolated day.

    By Blogger levi from queens, at 8:06 AM  

  • Did I hear the reporter correctly? I understood him to say that the judge is still considering the case but has denied the request to insert tube while he is making his decision?

    By Anonymous eyobo, at 8:20 AM  

  • Yes, you heard that right.

    The judge was "sympathetic" and understood the "URGENCY" of his ruling last night. He promised to make a decision before going to bed.

    Considering his denial for FOOD AND WATER while he goes to bed and "sleeps on it."

    I am not very hopeful.

    HE UNDERSTANDS THAT TERRI'S LIFE SITS IN HIS HANDS!!

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 8:29 AM  

  • I read the transcript of when Michael was on Larry King and a caller put him on the "spot" by asking him why if Terri really told him she didn't want to be kept alive, why wouldn't he just take a lie detector test and it would solve everything. He said he wouldn't do it. Now why do you suppose he wouldn't do that?

    By Anonymous eyobo, at 8:49 AM  

  • The pragmatic answer to that is "he doesn't need to."

    As an aside, people need to realize how easily lie detector results can be faked, with a little training. Pro bodybuilders fake it all the time and those states that once allowed it as standalone evidence are disappearing fast.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:03 AM  

  • That pragmatic response, BTW, is due to the current legal standing he has, independent of whether he's actually telling the truth.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:04 AM  

  • Some small points of interest from a Washington Post article that I haven't seen mentioned before:

    regarding Dr. Cheshire, the doctor recently cited by Jeb Bush:

    An article attributed to him on the Web site www.restorationfoundation.org advocated Jews converting to Christianity. "Should not we who are in Christ lift the yoke of persecution from the shoulders of the Jewish people and refresh them with the truth of the Lord of the Sabbath?" the article says.

    and regarding the opportunity DCF had:

    For about three hours, Felos said, there was no judicial impediment stopping the state from seizing Schiavo and resuming her tube-feeding because an arcane rule granted an automatic stay of court orders after an appeal was filed at 8:15 a.m.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:15 AM  

  • Did I actually read someone on here comparing Terri Schiavo to Jesus Christ?

    You are all over the top and need to seek immediate help.

    God help you all.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:35 AM  

  • Anon: I don't remember seeing that here. Joseph Farah of worldnetdaily did a point-by-point comparison though.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:50 AM  

  • Evolving Standards of Decency at the Weekly Standard by William Kristol.

    Quote: "Perhaps it is time, in mature reaction to this latest installment of what Hugh Hewitt has called a "robed charade," to rise up against our robed masters, and choose to govern ourselves. Call it Terri's revolution."

    By Blogger levi from queens, at 9:51 AM  

  • the governor pressed appeals arguing that the state has authority to take custody of Schiavo to investigate abuse allegations and to consider a state medical report that says she may not be in a vegetative state....

    William P. Cheshire, a neurologist at the Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville, Fla., who says Schiavo may be in a "minimally conscious," rather than "vegetative," state, as court-appointed doctors believe.


    That is from the Washington Post article.

    I find it comical that the DCF is basing this statement on the report of a doctor who stood by Terri's bed for about an hour and "felt the presence of life" and who didn't even EXAMINE her in any fashion, let alone perform a basic neurological exam.

    No wonder the Judicial system keeps saying no.

    These attempts to grasp at straws are laughable at best.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:54 AM  

  • I would not want to live like that. Did her husband not say that she told him she wouldn't want to live likt that? If so whats the big hubub? I have told my spouse long before this that I feel the same way. I hope she would pull the tubes on me. If that was her wish why is all of this going on?
    YLB

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:24 AM  

  • YLB

    GREAT QUESTION!

    Hubby didn't "remember" she said this until after he didn't get as much money as he wanted in the malpractice suit and got engaged.

    Just not "Clear and Convincing Evidence." especially when otheres gave testimony directly opposing his claims.

    Too many questions. After the CAT scan- the doctor (used by the courts) recommended MORE test needed to be done to get a CLEAR look. Hubby refused to allow further testing. That just is not in the best interest of the ward. Period.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:37 AM  

  • Anonymous, the big deal is, Terri's husband testified in court to her will to live and his desire to care for her for the rest of his life, THEN eight years after her collapse, after the legal settlement, and after he moved in with a new woman, he and his brother and his brother's wife testified that Terri made an off the cuff remark that "she wouldn't want that" when they were at their elderly grandmother's funeral. The grandmother was on a ventilator, not a feeding tube. Terri's parents, her sister and brother, and her best friend in college ALL testified that Terri would not want to be taken off a feeding tube, and had on numerous occasions said "Where there is life, there is hope" Michael's friend has admitted Terri NEVER told him her wishes, and on Larry King Live Michael slipped up and admitted that he doesn't know what she would have wanted, this is what "we" (assuming him and his common law wife) want. Michael has refused a polygraph test to confirm he is telling the truth.

    According to several witnesses Terri showed great distress when told the feeding tube was being removed again. This is a very painful process for all but the most terminally ill patients - and Terri is otherwise healthy and has excellent reactions to physical stimuli. She is suffering a horrendous death on nothing more than hearsay from people who have tremendous conflicts of interest and will benefit by her demise.

    By Anonymous FloridaHeat, at 10:43 AM  

  • So you think hubby is lying is what it boils down to. I would hope my family would believe my wife if not this could happen and that would suck for all involved. The court Dr said she is in a veg state hubby says she didnt want to live like that so let her go in peace.
    YLB

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:46 AM  

  • People are taken off feeding tubes every hour of every day why is this one murder?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:49 AM  

  • Yup! Every Husband is honest with pure intentions, and Every Doctor is always right.

    Her husband is a liar!

    He has lied under oath several times. Her husband also said he wnated to bring Terri home and care for her for the rest of her life. SO go ahead, pich and choose what you want to believe. But stating that someone should be STARVED to death because of what ahubby says, when he has SPECIFICALLY said otherwise also is duplicitous...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:54 AM  

  • This one is murder because Terri is not naturally dying. Someone with a terminal illness will naturally refuse food as their systems start to shut down. Terri is -- or was -- in stable health, before she began to be forcibly starved. She is not terminally ill and would not be dying if not for the feeding tube removal.

    By Anonymous Mary in LA, at 10:59 AM  

  • Well it is more than 1 Dr. How long should we keep a person alive on tubes 20 30 50 years? It seems to me Greer has followed the laws if not by now some of the other courts would overturn him. Do you think Greer hates her? why motavation does he have?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:00 AM  

  • Not everyone taken off a feeding tube is terminally ill. I feel bad for her and her family but since i never went to law school I have to think those who know the laws are following them and leave my personal feelings aside.
    YLB

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:04 AM  

  • why motavation does he have?

    If you really want to know.. go here

    You don't even have to read the actual post- just use the links and read about the corruption of the system in Pinellas County in regards to the guardianship issue. It is very sad.....

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:06 AM  

  • Show me where he is not following the law!! No one else can!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:10 AM  

  • Anonymous said...
    People are taken off feeding tubes every hour of every day why is this one murder?

    Because her family is begging for help? (and have been for nearly 15 years). They love her the way she is, they see the life still in her. If another family were to come forward, pleading for help, I would hope to high heaven that there would be support for them as well.
    I'd call it murder when a judge orders a living breathing (on her own)person to be denied food/water until he/she is dehydrated to death.

    By Anonymous eyobo, at 11:11 AM  

  • YLB, if your husband abandoned you and moved in with another woman, and stood to inherit $700,000 plus a 10 million dollar life insurance policy when you died, would you STILL trust him?

    Because that was the case when Michael Schiavo testified in court that his wife no longer wanted to live.

    By Anonymous FloridaHeat, at 11:14 AM  

  • Why are the others not murder then?
    It all depends on who has POT you can have 20 people say keep the tubes in but the POT has final say thats the law thats what greer is following!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:15 AM  

  • If I had told my spouse not to let me live like that then yes. I would never want my spouse to sit by my side for 15 years like that I love them to much and would want my spouse to let me go and move on and be happy.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:17 AM  

  • anonymous

    The law is CLEAR about the RESPONSIBILITIES of the guardian. Greer has ALLOWED hubby to NOT fulfill his responsibilities!

    Here is a list of laws not being followed

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:18 AM  

  • If all those laws are truely being broken why has no other court or jebby stoped it?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:26 AM  

  • anonymous

    you tell me...

    The judges have truly become a good ole boys club. I mean let's face it, how many times have we seen a court do something that we know is wrong- just can't understand, and are just like, wow! you mean that's it?

    It's like politicians use to have an air of respect, so did journalists, but now, even the judges and courts are losing the benefit of the doubt that they really are right and really do know what is going on.

    I just don't have all the answers, I do know that this case stinks to high heaven from start to finish.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:30 AM  

  • See I think it is an open and shut case like it or not and I am not saying I side with anyone because i truly dont. I just know because i have been through this on a personal level not everything is the same by far but the basics are the same and the person with POT had the right to say what happened not me.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:35 AM  

  • Well, if you can agree that there are different Points of View, then what on earth would make anyone want to let someone starve to death when there are some GOOD and VALID questions.

    This is not a woman dying of cancer. The rest of her organs were not shutting down. She is physically HEALTHY! I don't understand the "this is mercy" yet she feels no pain? Well, which one is it?

    The least that can be done is get another judge to review ALL the testimony and evidence. NOt just the stuff that ONE man (with bias) allowed. It's so frustrating.

    There is no winner if she dies. Yet, if she lives and finally gets the things she is entitled to by law, such as therapy, etc... we really could have a GREAT outcome. Terri deserves a chance.

    A lot of medical advances have been made in the last 10 years.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:41 AM  

  • Florida Heat:

    why do you say things that you know are not true?

    There's no $10 million life insurance policy and never was.

    The $700,000 has been long spent on lawyers and care.

    Michael has turned down an offer of $1 million to 'walk away'

    So what you are doing is slandering him.

    Have you no decency?

    Bart.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:43 AM  

  • Some good points but i dont think i would consider myself healthy if i could not feed myself for the past 15 years. And she will win in the end she will be in a better place.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:44 AM  

  • They slam him because they dont agree with him. People this far off as to call people murderers don't want to hear anything the disagree with.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:47 AM  

  • Yeah,

    I disagree with someone who won't ALLOW her to have a test to SEE if she can swallow as he starves her to death.. YUP! YOU bet I disagree with that!

    You realize that he had actually agreed to it, and then at 10:30 the night before the test was to take pklace- Felos called and said deal is off?

    Wonder why?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:51 AM  

  • Forida Heat

    Do you have more information about the 10 million life insurance? I've never heard anything about this before.

    I am for the right to die; however, dehydrating someone to death who is viable is not an option for me. And I say viable because Terri is/was not ill or terminal.

    As for Michael going on with his life, yes he should. When he decided to do so he should have gone back into court and reliquinshed his guardianship of Terri.

    For those of you who insist that Terri should die in such a horrible way all I can say is I hope someday the same decision is made for you.

    By Anonymous imtoast, at 11:54 AM  

  • A request:

    I'm compiling a list of thos complicit in Terri's murder - any additions, specific FACTS and pictures would be most appreciated.

    The current (very hastily constructed and incomplete) list is here:

    http://cusanoltd.com/Terri/list.htm

    Thanks in advance-

    Brian

    By Blogger Smug Monkey, at 11:58 AM  

  • Yes I wish to he would give power away I agree with that. But he has not and we have to live with that. I hope if it was me my spouse would have done it 14 years ago and please stop saying healthy. A vegitated state and unable to eat and drink on your own is not healthy.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:02 PM  

  • NOT HEALTHY?

    Name a DISEASE that she has?

    HANDICAPPED is HANDICAPPED- NOT DISEASED!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:05 PM  

  • By Blogger levi from queens, at 12:09 PM  

  • Hell I dont have any DISEASE and i am not healthy. I have to agree with ann on that one.
    YLB

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:11 PM  

  • Terri is viable, and don't give me the crap that she has to have a feeding tube. Everything withers without water regardless of how it is administered. Bet you're pro-choice hmmmm.

    By Anonymous imtoast, at 12:21 PM  

  • The $10mm in life insurance is not true. I know this with less than absolute certainty -- but there has never been a point in Terri's life where she would have qualified for a $10mm policy or (except right after he got the $300,000) Michael could have paid the premiums on such a policy. This feels like a myth. But see my post above for a discussion of the riches awaiting MIchael at her death.

    By Blogger levi from queens, at 12:24 PM  

  • Fine then give her a cup of water. and yes I am pro choice.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:26 PM  

  • By Anonymous Sarah D., at 12:26 PM  

  • Bart, in the court documents the parents brought up financial motives for his insistance she die, and referenced a "very large insurance policy". On newscasts Terri's best friend revealed that Michael took out a $10 million policy a month before her collapse. Michael offered to divest himself of all inheritances, including the insurance policy, if the parents let him remove her feeding tube - but he put an expiration date of 10 days on that offer, and of course the parents rejected it. You can also find reference to this (without a monetary figure) in articles that interview Jay Wolfson, Terri's guardian ad litem.

    I don't know Michael Schiavo, but I have read extensively and listened to those who DO know him, and the picture raises strong doubts that this man had Terri's interests in mind once he replaced her in his bed.

    By Anonymous FloridaHeat, at 12:28 PM  

  • Therein lies the problem. Judge Greer forbids her being allowed water by mouth. By the way, why do you think he did that?

    By Anonymous imtoast, at 12:32 PM  

  • I guess he just doesn't like women or mabey she vut him off in traffic i don't know you tell me. can she grab the cup and drink the water if it was in front of her?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:35 PM  

  • Levi, I had a $5 million policy on my life when I was 26, and it was very cheap - young females in good health can qualify for large amounts at a very low price. Terri and Michael were planning a family at that point, I don't find it surprising they would shop for insurance. Seeing their income level at the time I do have to agree that 10 million is not likely. But, stranger things have happened and Terri's friend seemed to believe the figure was correct. In any case, all do seem to agree that there is a "large" policy that Michael will get on Terri's death.

    I am not sure about this, but isn't there some way nursing homes can get their hands on life insurance once health insurance and private funding runs out for terminal patients? Would this be why Terri is in a Hospice (that only treats terminal patients), and not more appropriately in a long term care facility?

    By Anonymous FloridaHeat, at 12:36 PM  

  • So now I get it. Anyone who cannot hold a glass of water deserves to have it kept from them. Makes sense.

    By Anonymous imtoast, at 12:37 PM  

  • Why does hospice have a "healthy" person. they must be in on it too then huh.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:39 PM  

  • nope not at all but dont tell me she is "healthy".

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:40 PM  

  • If you are speaking to me I said viable. Get with the program bub.

    By Anonymous imtoast, at 12:42 PM  

  • Keep calling, keep faxing. Send postal letters. You could even spend 15 bucks, as I did, and send a telegram. DO NOT GIVE UP.

    When this fight is over -- one way or the other -- we must stay together and pass legislation to (1) see that this never happens to anyone else again and (b) break the backs of the black-robed tyrants.

    I think there is something else going on, too: Have you ever noticed that when you scratch a rabid leftie you find a rabid reactionary? The people making the "husband-is-her-guardian, he-should-have-the-final-say" argument are undermining marriage by undermining a woman's status in it. Women do not lose their civil rights when they marry! I'll bet there are young women out there who are saying, "Wow, I'm never getting married! I'm never letting a man have that much power over me!" And I think that is no accident.

    By Anonymous Mary in LA, at 12:43 PM  

  • imtoast, I know you were being sarcastic, but you are exactly right. My daughter lives in Pinellas Park, about 10 blocks from the Hospice where Terri is kept. She has been there several times this week. Many of the people protesting are RNs who are concerned caregivers for the elderly and disabled. They said Judge Wittemore has stated something to the effect that people who cannot feed themselves even temporarily should not be kept alive - and this affects about 95% of the people they care for. These protesters are not only out there for Terri, if the euthanasia of disabled people stands in this case, we are going to see thousands of elderly people starved to death.

    By Anonymous FloridaHeat, at 12:46 PM  

  • "Why does hospice have a "healthy" person. they must be in on it too then huh."

    The Empire Journal has done an excellent job of covering this:

    http://www.theempirejournal.com/03080534_medicaid_medicare_fraud.htm

    By Anonymous FloridaHeat, at 12:51 PM  

  • FH -- interesting on the $10mm. I doubt very much if Terri's policy could be negotiated into the viatical market. I doubt anybody would be willing to take the notoriety (to say nothing of the uncertainty) of owning it. OTOH, if I were the life insurer, I would refuse to pay MIchael and demand a jury trial -- while offering to pay the proceeds to her parents.

    By Blogger levi from queens, at 12:53 PM  

  • darn, truncated.

    http://www.theempirejournal.com
    /03080534_medicaid_medicare_fraud
    .htm

    Copy and paste into your browser

    By Anonymous FloridaHeat, at 12:54 PM  

  • FH, a reasonable person going to TheEmpireJournal's site can detect the bias immediately.

    This is the same group that all but directly accused the sheriff's dept of hacking their servers. Possible? Sure. Remotely likely? Come on.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:58 PM  

  • There were swallow tests on 3 consecutive years around 1990. Conclusions of all 3: she can't swallow any appreciable amount of liquid except her natural saliva.

    Yes, it was a long time ago. But she had previously undergone extensive rehabilitation and if ever there was a time she would be able to swallow, it would be then.

    The Palm Beach Post is reporting that at one time, Michael's requests of Terri's nursing staff were so numerous that the staff was in the motion of filing a restraining order against him. They were upset because with all the attention Michael demanded they pay to Terri, the other patients under their care were being neglected.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:02 PM  

  • GREAT QUESTION!

    Hubby didn't "remember" she said this until after he didn't get as much money as he wanted in the malpractice suit and got engaged.


    BULL! Do you think that was at the same time her brother-in-law and sister-in-law also remembered her saying that ... all on different occasions at the funerals of family members and friends?

    imtoast said...
    Terri is viable, and don't give me the crap that she has to have a feeding tube. Everything withers without water regardless of how it is administered. Bet you're pro-choice hmmmm.


    MORE LIES!!

    She cannot swallow! She cannot eat food. She cannot drink. That is why she was given nutrition 3 times a day through the tube!!

    YLB, if your husband abandoned you and moved in with another woman, and stood to inherit $700,000 plus a 10 million dollar life insurance policy when you died, would you STILL trust him?

    First, show me proof of a $10 million dollar life insurance policy. HE WAS OFFERED $1 MILLION and THEN $10 MILLION if he turned over guardianship to the parents. If he was about money he would have TAKEN those offers.

    How did he abandon her when HER PARENTS encouraged him to date other women while he still lived with them and while he was taking care of Terri?

    Have you no decency?

    Bart.


    EXACTLY! This weblog and it's regulars are full of crap constantly. They make stuff up and then say it's TRUTH!

    The only sources they quote from are the FAR RIGHT sites like WDN, Empire Journal, etc. The Empire Journal is hilarious ... I loved the recent article that Michael Schiavo is like OJ Simpson!!! The so called psychiatrist who made this "diagnosis" .. never even met Michael Schiavo.

    By Anonymous Judith P., at 3:59 PM  

  • Judith, I think she only gets the feeding one time a day, for a hour or so process. Not absolutely certain about that, but that seems to be something I recall reading. Anyone know if this is true?

    By Blogger jlfintx, at 4:33 PM  

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