Straight Up with Sherri

Thursday, March 24, 2005

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62 Comments:

  • So, now this is over Sherri, are you and the other people who have fought so hard going to fight for the lives of the thousands of people, old and very very young threatened by Bush's and Delay's proposed 15billion cuts to Medicare and Medicaid?

    Just wondering.

    wwjd

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:04 AM  

  • This is not over. Even if Terri Schiavo dies, the issues remain. Tyrannical power grabs by the judiciary, obstruction of justice by "run amok" judges. Disregard for the Constitutions of the United States and the several States. And, yes, you are right about the need to review Medicare and Medicaid - more government fraud.

    By Blogger Right Wing Nut Job, at 11:12 AM  

  • I'm not Sherri but I will answer you, you putz. It ain't over til the fat lady sings.

    By Anonymous imtoast, at 11:13 AM  

  • Executive orders are lawful. They've been written by presidents ever since Washington on a number of different issues.

    http://www.heritage.org/Research/LegalIssues/LM2.cfm

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:13 AM  

  • to WWJD: exactly ...

    What if find interesting is that this website encourages breaking of the LAW.

    You are going to sit here and promote that Jeb Bush should DISREGARD the LAW and the RULING of the United States Supreme Court?

    Oh that's right ... all you right wingers thing that you're above the law.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:17 AM  

  • What would Jesus do? Are you seriously asking that? I believe that Jesus would definitely choose life! I am very, very ashamed at my country right now. If I felt there were somewhere to go, I would. I don't know what kind of bubble I was living in before - thinking that there were some decent humans left - but it's just been busted. This has massive implications for our country. Massive. And, in a way, I feel sorry (yet sickened) by those who are so blind that they cannot see the humanity of a poor, defenseless woman. No one should EVER be denied the right of basic food and water. I am literally in shock at the number of people who's hearts are black as death. As black as the death they are dishing out. I keep hearing - let her go - let God take her! Well - let me say that none of you GAVE God the chance to take her when HE felt the time was right. I think, that perhaps Terri was born for such a time as this - to place a mirror before us so that we, as a country, can see our sick reflection. Unfortunately, if Terri is allowed to die, it will be a little bit late to redeem ourselves. I fear what is to come if Terri is allowed to be murdered in such a Nazi-esque way. With all the shootings, violence, horror and total contempt for lives such as Terri out there - I feel as though the whole world has gone mad. Our country in particular, seems to have cracked. I don't know what to do anymore. I am simply numb with disbelief. You know - it is right that we shouldn't have had to go to congress about this issue - Terri should have been defended in the Florida courts long ago. She has been wronged and is now being treated as lower than pond scum.

    By Blogger Jill, at 11:19 AM  

  • The Supreme Court and George Greer do not make law. The legislatures do. The Executive office is responsible for enforcing the law. What part of that do you not understand?

    By Blogger Right Wing Nut Job, at 11:20 AM  

  • ahh, satans lowlife minions are still here. the Lord rebuke you.
    RWNJ, you missed alot yesterday!!
    How are you feeling?

    By Anonymous Marine Momma, at 11:21 AM  

  • WWJD?? He would heal her...

    By Anonymous curmudgeon, at 11:22 AM  

  • Good morning Marine Momma. I am tired, but feeling betteer today. Somewhat depressed by the cowering of our executive officers to uphold their sworn duties. Bothered by the fact that George Greer is now running the State of Florida, and wimps let him do it.

    By Blogger Right Wing Nut Job, at 11:24 AM  

  • curmudgeon,
    I am a bit confused by your comment. Who would heal whom?

    By Blogger Right Wing Nut Job, at 11:26 AM  

  • I was answering anon's question to What Jesus would do if he were here.
    He would heal Terri... plain and simple. That means that certainly the first step is to provide nutrition.

    By Anonymous curmudgeon, at 11:29 AM  

  • Carmudgeon, not trying to jump on you, because not sure what you mean by that statement "Jesus would heal her..." I believe that Jesus does heal, but if he decides not too, he would still feel that person is valuable. We cannot always undertand why one person gets healed and another doesn't. But Jesus said we are to treat others as ourselves and I truly believe that most of us would not want food and water withheld! The other night, I went to bed without much to eat. I woke up early in the morning hours with some pretty harsh hunger pangs. I then thought - I can only imagine what six days without any sustainance might be like. Sheer hell. This is not a Christian, Democrat, or Republican issue. This is about whether we are going to stand up for our weakest among us who cannot speak for ourselves. I fear a society which deems them, as one poster wrote, 'trash'.

    By Blogger Jill, at 11:31 AM  

  • Thanks for clearing that up, Carmudgeon. I had thought that might be what you meant...

    By Blogger Jill, at 11:33 AM  

  • anon's question was moot. Don't you see? If Jesus were here right now in person he would heal her without a doubt because the Kingdom would surely be at hand.

    That's all I meant. Call it proof by induction.

    By Anonymous curmudgeon, at 11:34 AM  

  • :)

    By Anonymous curmudgeon, at 11:34 AM  

  • No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:35 AM  

  • If, by the mere force of numbers, a majority should deprive a minority of any clearly written constitutional right, it might, in a moral point of view, justify revolution—certainly would, if such right were a vital one."


    - Abraham Lincoln

    Inaugural Address (March 4, 1861)

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:36 AM  

  • curmudgeon,
    I agree. Jesus instructed us to care for those in need. And I agree with some on the left regarding too many people neglected by our systems. I also see exploitation by politicians over situations such as the Terri Schiavo case.
    We will always have the oppressed, the poor, the downtrodden on this earth. It is our duty to care for them, to protect life, and respect dignity. What George Greer has done is to deny all of this to Terri Schiavo, and even to prevent investigations into the alleged wrongdoings.
    Finally, I would like to point out to many of our new visiting friends, that most of the people commenting on this blog are conservatives or moderates. I am one of the few right-wingers.

    By Blogger Right Wing Nut Job, at 11:37 AM  

  • doesn't your "god" have the power to heal her? If thats what he wants then let him. Other than that let these lawyers and judges do thier job. I don't understand why people like Sherri and RWNJ think they know more about law then the judges and so on..... RWNJ you answer me that, Because i know Sherri won't she can't handle it when people don't agree with her.
    YLB

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:38 AM  

  • anon again, your question is moot.

    Why don't you explain to me why the court, your god, wants to kill her?

    By Anonymous curmudgeon, at 11:40 AM  

  • the fact that Sherri hasn't deleted the comments that disagree pretty much blows your statement to pieces. She is much more tolerant than any other bloggers I have seen. Not only does she allow dissent, she even allows the personal attacks to say up. Don't ask my why.

    Disagree all you like, but to say she "can't handle" it is just not true.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:41 AM  

  • Jennifer Lima-Smith, an attorney for the DCF, reminded
    Greer that the agency does not need his permission in
    advance to act.


    "The law allows the department to exercise both
    emergency protective services -- intervention and
    emergency removal -- either one or both," Lima-Smith
    told Greer.

    The statute also appears to specifically exempt DCF
    from an otherwise enforceable mandate to seek Michael
    Schiavo's permission to remove Terri.

    "If the vulnerable adult's caregiver or guardian is
    present, the protective investigator must seek the
    caregiver's or guardian's consent ... before the
    vulnerable adult may be removed from the premises,"
    the law states, "unless the protective investigator
    suspects that the vulnerable adult's caregiver or
    guardian has caused the abuse, neglect, or exploitation."

    The only authorization or requirement for the
    involvement of the courts in an emergency intervention
    or removal comes after DCF has taken its action. "The
    department shall, within 24 hours after providing or
    arranging for emergency removal of the vulnerable
    adult, excluding Saturdays, Sundays, and legal
    holidays, petition the court for an order authorizing
    emergency protective services."

    Nonetheless, Greer rebuked the agency, ordering it not
    to attempt to enforce the state law.

    "Since it appears imminent that the department is
    likely to do something in contravention of that rule
    of law, this court is going to grant the oral motion,"
    Greer said. "DCF is hereby restrained from taking
    possession of Theresa Marie Schiavo or removing her
    from Hospice Woodside, administer (sic) nutrition or
    hydration artificially or otherwise interfere (sic)
    with this court's final judgment."

    That final portion of Greer's oral order seems to
    contradict yet another portion of the statute,
    entitled "Emergency medical treatment.

    "If, upon admission to a medical facility, it is the
    opinion of the medical staff that immediate medical
    treatment is necessary to prevent serious physical
    injury or death, and that such treatment does not
    violate a known health care advance directive prepared
    by the vulnerable adult," the statute states, "the
    medical facility may proceed with treatment to the
    vulnerable adult."

    Terri Schiavo has no such advance directive.

    At approximately 11:00 p.m. EST, attorneys for Terri
    Schiavo's parents filed a 40-plus page request for an
    emergency injunction with the U.S. Supreme Court. The
    pleading asks the justices to order Terri's feeding
    and hydration tube reinserted while the lower federal
    courts conduct a completely new trial of the facts in
    the case. That review was mandated by special
    legislation passed by Congress and signed into law by
    President George W. Bush earlier in the week.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:48 AM  

  • I really do not put a lot of credence in what George Greer makes as "law". There is a common misconception, that we are a Nation of Laws. This is wrong, we are a Nation of Constitutions. When the U.S. Supreme Court usurped legislative power in 1803, in the case of Marbury v. Madison, they started down a slippery slope toward tyranny by the judiciary. I honestly believe that Judge George Greer is guilty of the most egregious usurpation of power that the United States has ever seen by a single man.

    In response to Anonymous, I do not clainm to know more about the law than Judge Greer; it is just obvious to the most casual observer that he ignores it.

    By Blogger Right Wing Nut Job, at 11:50 AM  

  • Trust me she can't handle it. I just want to know why she thinks its ok to call judges murderers and tell me that because I am not down there fighting for Terri I am as bad as a person watching watching a train full of Jews go by to thier death. I have a JOB I am not on assisted living and I dont get food stamps I cant run down there on weekends leaving kids behind to fight for something that NONE OF US knows all the details to.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:51 AM  

  • Of course God has the power to heal - but tyrannical judges have not given him the chance! God has created and uses medicines, doctors, and the like to heal people and it happens all the time. But without any therapy, and investigation into certain allegations of neglect and abuse, there will be no healing whatsover. We are supposed to uphold life. But - it's useless to debate with people who are hell-bent on death. The truth is, disabled, brain damaged, or mentally handicapped people make many people uncomfortable. Such people are more than happy to play the death card instead of caring for someone in need. Do you ever think that God is trying to teach us something through Terri? What kind of people are we if we cannot love and learn from the disabled?

    By Blogger Jill, at 11:53 AM  

  • I don't believe in "god" so no I don't think he is trying to teach me. 2nd off curch and state dont mix so leave religion out of it to begin with!!!!
    YLB

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:59 AM  

  • The fact that God has not thus far chosen to heal has no bearing on whether or not we should save a life. God will heal who he will heal and HE has HIS reasons that HE doesn't need to explain to us. Read the book of Job. We still have the one directive to protect innocent life.

    By Anonymous curmudgeon, at 12:00 PM  

  • A local radio station announced that the Florida Dept of Law Enforcement told Judge Greer that they will not intervene by placing Terri in protective custody.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:01 PM  

  • Now I see Jeb says he's disappointed at Supremes decision....
    well, Jeb, don't let it ruin your Easter

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:03 PM  

  • Don't get me wrong I feel very bad for Terri and her family I just don't like that you people call a judged a murderer and say if i sit around and don't fight for her i am as bad as a person watching a train full of jews. What is wrong in your heads? this is not how you get people to listen to you, thats how you get people to ignore you.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:10 PM  

  • anonymous -- we are evidently failing to get you to ignore us.

    By Blogger levi from queens, at 12:13 PM  

  • Anonymous -- something that NONE OF US knows all the details to.
    I agree with this, entirely!
    How about this: We take Terri off the Starvation/Dehydration Torture Death Sentence that Judge Greer has unilaterally imposed without due process; and then we can institute an independent investigation, including all the depositions, videos, testimony, etc. that Greer has gagged?

    By Blogger Right Wing Nut Job, at 12:17 PM  

  • LOL It is not me that matters. I just want Sherri to answer a few questions when she gets the guts to.
    YLB

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:18 PM  

  • RWNJ
    Lets let the courts and lawyers do what they are paid to do i agree with that. While they do thier jobs lets not call them murderers!!!!! ok
    YLB

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:20 PM  

  • Anonymous -- watching a train full of jews.
    What a poignant commment! On Glenn Beck, this morning, that is exactly how Bobby Schindler described his sister that he visited last night. He said she looks exactly like the photographs of the victims in the Nazi concentration camps!

    By Blogger Right Wing Nut Job, at 12:21 PM  

  • When the Law is Wrong, a very good piece at http://dory.typepad.com/wittenberg_gate/2005/03/when_the_law_is.html.
    As covered there, changes are made my people speaking out, debating, petitioning and appealing – getting people to look beyond the law to see what’s right and wrong.

    anon – that’s what we are doing and Sherri has been very gracious in allowing you to voice your opinion.

    By Anonymous Dee, at 12:24 PM  

  • YLB

    What do you call it when not only does he rule to have the tube removed, but then denies anyone to give her a glass of water by normal means? Where is the law saying we cannot offer someone water?

    I am not an expert on law, but this part of it seems to be beyond bias. Doesn't it to you?

    You may believe this is about Terri's "right to die." Fine. But id she really wants to die, don't you think she would refuse the water offered to her? And if she is truly in a "vegetative" state then there is no owrry of her being able to accept it and swallow it, right?

    These are the parts that just don't make sense.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:25 PM  

  • Anonymous -- Lets let the courts and lawyers do what they are paid to do.
    I am not objecting to judges and lawyers doing what they are paid to do. That is an important part of of our system. There are many very fine lawyers and judges. But George Greer is not doing what he is paid to do. He is doing what Jeb Bush is paid to do. He is doing what the Executioner at the State Penitentiary is paid to do. He is doing what the DCF is paid to do.
    In my opinion, he is doing all of these things poorly, in addition to his own job.

    By Blogger Right Wing Nut Job, at 12:26 PM  

  • Sherri said I am as bad as person watching a train full of Jews she said it not me!!!! And don't give me stuff like that I Saw an aunt pass away 2 weeks ago We knoew it was coming and waited for 14 hours in her room till she died so i know what they are going through!!!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:27 PM  

  • Then let his bosses decide that RWNJ not youand I we don't know the law like they do!!!!!!!!
    YLB

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:28 PM  

  • anon my mother passed away on tuesday of this week so let's not talk about family deaths.

    By Anonymous curmudgeon, at 12:29 PM  

  • RWNJ:

    How about this: We take Terri off the Starvation/Dehydration Torture Death Sentence that Judge Greer has unilaterally imposed without due process; and then we can institute an independent investigation, including all the depositions, videos, testimony, etc. that Greer has gagged?

    Has she not had 15 friggin years of due process? YES. You don't like the answers coming out of the Judicial System because they aren't the answers YOU want to hear.

    This has been argued, and argued, and argued and ARGUED ... and the Courts have followed the LAW.

    THIS WHOLE SITUATION IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!!!!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:30 PM  

  • and none of yours as well anon. Now run along :)

    By Anonymous curmudgeon, at 12:32 PM  

  • rwnj Isn't it funny to see this LLL hiss and thrash around? We won the white house, congress, and now we're going after their gods, the judges. :)

    By Anonymous curmudgeon, at 12:34 PM  

  • I think YLB has a crush on Sherri.

    very obsessed with what Sheri thinks, what Sherri does, what Sherri says.

    It is like this, if you don't like it, turn the page. Why do you look for a fight? Sherri is doing what she believes to be right. weather you agree with it or not, at least she is sincere. She is not running to your space to rattle about it.

    SHerri, you are much more patient than I am, God bless you.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:36 PM  

  • Anonymous
    I sincerely offer my sympathy to your family regarding your aunt. Death of family is a sad and difficult thing for many of us.
    I did not attribute the original "train" comment to you. I apologize if I have offended you; thank you for the clarification. But my point stands.

    By Blogger Right Wing Nut Job, at 12:36 PM  

  • Anonymous -- THIS WHOLE SITUATION IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!!!!
    Actually, as an American citizen and a believer in the right of every human being to life, it is very much my business. As it is yours, regardless of your beliefs. The fact that you are willing to have this discussion demonstrates that you care about something. We obviously disagree on that "something", but we are sharing our viewpoints, opinions, and supporting reasons. I appreciate the fact that you are willing to do this in what is obviously an environment that is hostile to you.

    By Blogger Right Wing Nut Job, at 12:41 PM  

  • Anonymous -- This has been argued, and argued, and argued and ARGUED ... and the Courts have followed the LAW.
    Actually, only one court, or should I say one man, George Greer, who also acted as Terri's advocate and jury, has heard the case. He was the single arbiter of fact. That is something I do not argue. All other courts have merely ruled on procedure.
    But the other courts have also disregarded law; for instance the refusal of Tampa Federal District and the 11th Circuit to consider Congressional Law requiring New Discovery - were totally ignored! This doesn't take a rocket surgeon to understand.

    By Blogger Right Wing Nut Job, at 12:49 PM  

  • Folks,

    From what I understand, when DCF filed their motion, the were allowed to move and take Terri into custody. I guess they did not know that. Then once Felos filed a motion, Greer granted it, then DCF lost the ability to take her into custody. Where it goes from here, I do not know.

    I will keep you all posted as I know things...

    YLB

    Believe it or not, I sincerely appreciate you being here.

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 12:50 PM  

  • Hey you guys, I've been having trouble posting here and at DL. I either can't get the comment box to come up, or when it does and try to post a comment, it hangs out there in cyberspace until I get a "refresh" page, and it's lost forever.

    DWT thinks DL might be under attack. Here too???? Might just be me, but I've tested everything there is to test. I have no problem accessing other sites.

    I hope this will post....

    By Anonymous lady redhawk, at 12:58 PM  

  • Just to let youknow I do not have a crush on Sherri Lynn I just know her on a personal level. Thank RWNJ My aunt is better off trust me.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:12 PM  

  • Discarded Lies is a hosted website. StraightUp is a blogsite hosted by Blogger. There is no internal correlation that I know of - could be some in hardware channels.
    It's not unusual for all Blogger-Hosted sites to experience the same problem. This was bad about two weeks ago. I don't know what the problem may be.

    By Blogger Right Wing Nut Job, at 1:12 PM  

  • I guess part of what I am trying to say is that if you are trying to pull someone (Greer legaslators, ect...) over the line to your way of thinking, do it from beside the line not from the FAR RIGHT of the line, you wan't be able toreach them from there!!
    YLB

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:26 PM  

  • YLB

    uhmmmm

    and your tactics are the way to reach people?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:32 PM  

  • We have access to the legislators, that is an open forum where the people are empowered to make changes. However, the judiciary has exempted themselves from Constitutional oversight. The constitution says that judges are subject to rulings of legislatures, not the other way around.
    Please share with me your thoughts on this: How do the people (it's our government) handle a tyranical judge? Don't tell me "other courts" because that violates the separation of powers clause. Furthermore, the Constitutions are organized in very specific ways. The U.S. Constitution puts PRIMARY power in the Congress (Article 1, Section 1) for a reason. They are the most accessible to our guarantee of the redress of grievances.

    By Blogger Right Wing Nut Job, at 1:36 PM  

  • I don't have any tactics I am not trying to pull anyone from one side to another I am telling you that call judges murderers and comparing them to Hitler is not the way to be taken seriously.
    If you think thats a good way to get people to listen to you, then you need to take your pills and call your shrink.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:39 PM  

  • What I mean is if Greer is not following the law then yes he can be overturned I wish I knew more about the laws but i do not.
    YLB

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:41 PM  

  • YLB

    Many of the judges do not enforce the laws on guardians. It actually is a very common thing, especially in Pinellas County, from what I read on the Florida Seniors site.

    I can't understand how they can do that and what course of action we can take to stop it. When judges apply following hte law at different standards, it is a shame to us all. Have you read some of the stories on that sight. It's crazy!


    RWNJ

    What CAN we do when judges just refuse to enforce laws to protect the vulnerable?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:46 PM  

  • We really don't need to "pull judges to our way of thinking". Their job is to referee according to the various legislatures, which they do not always do a good job. Swaying judges is a stupid concept on its face.
    We must "control" judges, not convince them. After all, they are our servants, we are not theirs.

    On the other hand, it may be necessary to "pull legislatures", at least in the short term. That is the prescribed venue for Law. It is also necessary to sway Executives (short term). That is the venue for policy. My issue is this, Judges have really no "power". At the Federal level for instance, only the Supreme Court is recognized to exist. All others serve at the pleasure of Congress.
    Look it up. Article III, Section 1).

    By Blogger Right Wing Nut Job, at 1:47 PM  

  • In my opinion, the legislature would ostensibly have the power to direct the executive to have the judge removed from office for insubordination and have the case remanded to a different court. Whether the executive could do it unilaterally, I don't know. But I believe that it would certainly have more constitutional muster than Dred Scott/Sanford or Roe/Wade.

    However, I am not a lawyer; just a simple guy who likes to read Constitutions.

    By Blogger Right Wing Nut Job, at 1:55 PM  

  • Well so much for LGF. After weeks of hiding, Charles Johnson has come out on the side of murder. I can't believe it. I am so dissappointed.

    Marv.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:53 PM  

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