So, now this is over Sherri, are you and the other people who have fought so hard going to fight for the lives of the thousands of people, old and very very young threatened by Bush's and Delay's proposed 15billion cuts to Medicare and Medicaid?
I was answering anon's question to What Jesus would do if he were here. He would heal Terri... plain and simple. That means that certainly the first step is to provide nutrition.
anon's question was moot. Don't you see? If Jesus were here right now in person he would heal her without a doubt because the Kingdom would surely be at hand.
No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
If, by the mere force of numbers, a majority should deprive a minority of any clearly written constitutional right, it might, in a moral point of view, justify revolution—certainly would, if such right were a vital one."
doesn't your "god" have the power to heal her? If thats what he wants then let him. Other than that let these lawyers and judges do thier job. I don't understand why people like Sherri and RWNJ think they know more about law then the judges and so on..... RWNJ you answer me that, Because i know Sherri won't she can't handle it when people don't agree with her. YLB
the fact that Sherri hasn't deleted the comments that disagree pretty much blows your statement to pieces. She is much more tolerant than any other bloggers I have seen. Not only does she allow dissent, she even allows the personal attacks to say up. Don't ask my why.
Disagree all you like, but to say she "can't handle" it is just not true.
Jennifer Lima-Smith, an attorney for the DCF, reminded Greer that the agency does not need his permission in advance to act.
"The law allows the department to exercise both emergency protective services -- intervention and emergency removal -- either one or both," Lima-Smith told Greer.
The statute also appears to specifically exempt DCF from an otherwise enforceable mandate to seek Michael Schiavo's permission to remove Terri.
"If the vulnerable adult's caregiver or guardian is present, the protective investigator must seek the caregiver's or guardian's consent ... before the vulnerable adult may be removed from the premises," the law states, "unless the protective investigator suspects that the vulnerable adult's caregiver or guardian has caused the abuse, neglect, or exploitation."
The only authorization or requirement for the involvement of the courts in an emergency intervention or removal comes after DCF has taken its action. "The department shall, within 24 hours after providing or arranging for emergency removal of the vulnerable adult, excluding Saturdays, Sundays, and legal holidays, petition the court for an order authorizing emergency protective services."
Nonetheless, Greer rebuked the agency, ordering it not to attempt to enforce the state law.
"Since it appears imminent that the department is likely to do something in contravention of that rule of law, this court is going to grant the oral motion," Greer said. "DCF is hereby restrained from taking possession of Theresa Marie Schiavo or removing her from Hospice Woodside, administer (sic) nutrition or hydration artificially or otherwise interfere (sic) with this court's final judgment."
That final portion of Greer's oral order seems to contradict yet another portion of the statute, entitled "Emergency medical treatment.
"If, upon admission to a medical facility, it is the opinion of the medical staff that immediate medical treatment is necessary to prevent serious physical injury or death, and that such treatment does not violate a known health care advance directive prepared by the vulnerable adult," the statute states, "the medical facility may proceed with treatment to the vulnerable adult."
Terri Schiavo has no such advance directive.
At approximately 11:00 p.m. EST, attorneys for Terri Schiavo's parents filed a 40-plus page request for an emergency injunction with the U.S. Supreme Court. The pleading asks the justices to order Terri's feeding and hydration tube reinserted while the lower federal courts conduct a completely new trial of the facts in the case. That review was mandated by special legislation passed by Congress and signed into law by President George W. Bush earlier in the week.
Trust me she can't handle it. I just want to know why she thinks its ok to call judges murderers and tell me that because I am not down there fighting for Terri I am as bad as a person watching watching a train full of Jews go by to thier death. I have a JOB I am not on assisted living and I dont get food stamps I cant run down there on weekends leaving kids behind to fight for something that NONE OF US knows all the details to.
I don't believe in "god" so no I don't think he is trying to teach me. 2nd off curch and state dont mix so leave religion out of it to begin with!!!! YLB
The fact that God has not thus far chosen to heal has no bearing on whether or not we should save a life. God will heal who he will heal and HE has HIS reasons that HE doesn't need to explain to us. Read the book of Job. We still have the one directive to protect innocent life.
A local radio station announced that the Florida Dept of Law Enforcement told Judge Greer that they will not intervene by placing Terri in protective custody.
Don't get me wrong I feel very bad for Terri and her family I just don't like that you people call a judged a murderer and say if i sit around and don't fight for her i am as bad as a person watching a train full of jews. What is wrong in your heads? this is not how you get people to listen to you, thats how you get people to ignore you.
When the Law is Wrong, a very good piece at http://dory.typepad.com/wittenberg_gate/2005/03/when_the_law_is.html. As covered there, changes are made my people speaking out, debating, petitioning and appealing – getting people to look beyond the law to see what’s right and wrong.
anon – that’s what we are doing and Sherri has been very gracious in allowing you to voice your opinion.
What do you call it when not only does he rule to have the tube removed, but then denies anyone to give her a glass of water by normal means? Where is the law saying we cannot offer someone water?
I am not an expert on law, but this part of it seems to be beyond bias. Doesn't it to you?
You may believe this is about Terri's "right to die." Fine. But id she really wants to die, don't you think she would refuse the water offered to her? And if she is truly in a "vegetative" state then there is no owrry of her being able to accept it and swallow it, right?
Sherri said I am as bad as person watching a train full of Jews she said it not me!!!! And don't give me stuff like that I Saw an aunt pass away 2 weeks ago We knoew it was coming and waited for 14 hours in her room till she died so i know what they are going through!!!
How about this: We take Terri off the Starvation/Dehydration Torture Death Sentence that Judge Greer has unilaterally imposed without due process; and then we can institute an independent investigation, including all the depositions, videos, testimony, etc. that Greer has gagged?
Has she not had 15 friggin years of due process? YES. You don't like the answers coming out of the Judicial System because they aren't the answers YOU want to hear.
This has been argued, and argued, and argued and ARGUED ... and the Courts have followed the LAW.
very obsessed with what Sheri thinks, what Sherri does, what Sherri says.
It is like this, if you don't like it, turn the page. Why do you look for a fight? Sherri is doing what she believes to be right. weather you agree with it or not, at least she is sincere. She is not running to your space to rattle about it.
SHerri, you are much more patient than I am, God bless you.
From what I understand, when DCF filed their motion, the were allowed to move and take Terri into custody. I guess they did not know that. Then once Felos filed a motion, Greer granted it, then DCF lost the ability to take her into custody. Where it goes from here, I do not know.
I will keep you all posted as I know things...
YLB
Believe it or not, I sincerely appreciate you being here.
Hey you guys, I've been having trouble posting here and at DL. I either can't get the comment box to come up, or when it does and try to post a comment, it hangs out there in cyberspace until I get a "refresh" page, and it's lost forever.
DWT thinks DL might be under attack. Here too???? Might just be me, but I've tested everything there is to test. I have no problem accessing other sites.
I guess part of what I am trying to say is that if you are trying to pull someone (Greer legaslators, ect...) over the line to your way of thinking, do it from beside the line not from the FAR RIGHT of the line, you wan't be able toreach them from there!! YLB
I don't have any tactics I am not trying to pull anyone from one side to another I am telling you that call judges murderers and comparing them to Hitler is not the way to be taken seriously. If you think thats a good way to get people to listen to you, then you need to take your pills and call your shrink.
Many of the judges do not enforce the laws on guardians. It actually is a very common thing, especially in Pinellas County, from what I read on the Florida Seniors site.
I can't understand how they can do that and what course of action we can take to stop it. When judges apply following hte law at different standards, it is a shame to us all. Have you read some of the stories on that sight. It's crazy!
RWNJ
What CAN we do when judges just refuse to enforce laws to protect the vulnerable?
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So, now this is over Sherri, are you and the other people who have fought so hard going to fight for the lives of the thousands of people, old and very very young threatened by Bush's and Delay's proposed 15billion cuts to Medicare and Medicaid?
Just wondering.
wwjd
By Anonymous, at 11:04 AM
I'm not Sherri but I will answer you, you putz. It ain't over til the fat lady sings.
By Anonymous, at 11:13 AM
Executive orders are lawful. They've been written by presidents ever since Washington on a number of different issues.
http://www.heritage.org/Research/LegalIssues/LM2.cfm
By Anonymous, at 11:13 AM
to WWJD: exactly ...
What if find interesting is that this website encourages breaking of the LAW.
You are going to sit here and promote that Jeb Bush should DISREGARD the LAW and the RULING of the United States Supreme Court?
Oh that's right ... all you right wingers thing that you're above the law.
By Anonymous, at 11:17 AM
ahh, satans lowlife minions are still here. the Lord rebuke you.
RWNJ, you missed alot yesterday!!
How are you feeling?
By Anonymous, at 11:21 AM
WWJD?? He would heal her...
By Anonymous, at 11:22 AM
I was answering anon's question to What Jesus would do if he were here.
He would heal Terri... plain and simple. That means that certainly the first step is to provide nutrition.
By Anonymous, at 11:29 AM
anon's question was moot. Don't you see? If Jesus were here right now in person he would heal her without a doubt because the Kingdom would surely be at hand.
That's all I meant. Call it proof by induction.
By Anonymous, at 11:34 AM
:)
By Anonymous, at 11:34 AM
No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
By Anonymous, at 11:35 AM
If, by the mere force of numbers, a majority should deprive a minority of any clearly written constitutional right, it might, in a moral point of view, justify revolution—certainly would, if such right were a vital one."
- Abraham Lincoln
Inaugural Address (March 4, 1861)
By Anonymous, at 11:36 AM
doesn't your "god" have the power to heal her? If thats what he wants then let him. Other than that let these lawyers and judges do thier job. I don't understand why people like Sherri and RWNJ think they know more about law then the judges and so on..... RWNJ you answer me that, Because i know Sherri won't she can't handle it when people don't agree with her.
YLB
By Anonymous, at 11:38 AM
anon again, your question is moot.
Why don't you explain to me why the court, your god, wants to kill her?
By Anonymous, at 11:40 AM
the fact that Sherri hasn't deleted the comments that disagree pretty much blows your statement to pieces. She is much more tolerant than any other bloggers I have seen. Not only does she allow dissent, she even allows the personal attacks to say up. Don't ask my why.
Disagree all you like, but to say she "can't handle" it is just not true.
By Anonymous, at 11:41 AM
Jennifer Lima-Smith, an attorney for the DCF, reminded
Greer that the agency does not need his permission in
advance to act.
"The law allows the department to exercise both
emergency protective services -- intervention and
emergency removal -- either one or both," Lima-Smith
told Greer.
The statute also appears to specifically exempt DCF
from an otherwise enforceable mandate to seek Michael
Schiavo's permission to remove Terri.
"If the vulnerable adult's caregiver or guardian is
present, the protective investigator must seek the
caregiver's or guardian's consent ... before the
vulnerable adult may be removed from the premises,"
the law states, "unless the protective investigator
suspects that the vulnerable adult's caregiver or
guardian has caused the abuse, neglect, or exploitation."
The only authorization or requirement for the
involvement of the courts in an emergency intervention
or removal comes after DCF has taken its action. "The
department shall, within 24 hours after providing or
arranging for emergency removal of the vulnerable
adult, excluding Saturdays, Sundays, and legal
holidays, petition the court for an order authorizing
emergency protective services."
Nonetheless, Greer rebuked the agency, ordering it not
to attempt to enforce the state law.
"Since it appears imminent that the department is
likely to do something in contravention of that rule
of law, this court is going to grant the oral motion,"
Greer said. "DCF is hereby restrained from taking
possession of Theresa Marie Schiavo or removing her
from Hospice Woodside, administer (sic) nutrition or
hydration artificially or otherwise interfere (sic)
with this court's final judgment."
That final portion of Greer's oral order seems to
contradict yet another portion of the statute,
entitled "Emergency medical treatment.
"If, upon admission to a medical facility, it is the
opinion of the medical staff that immediate medical
treatment is necessary to prevent serious physical
injury or death, and that such treatment does not
violate a known health care advance directive prepared
by the vulnerable adult," the statute states, "the
medical facility may proceed with treatment to the
vulnerable adult."
Terri Schiavo has no such advance directive.
At approximately 11:00 p.m. EST, attorneys for Terri
Schiavo's parents filed a 40-plus page request for an
emergency injunction with the U.S. Supreme Court. The
pleading asks the justices to order Terri's feeding
and hydration tube reinserted while the lower federal
courts conduct a completely new trial of the facts in
the case. That review was mandated by special
legislation passed by Congress and signed into law by
President George W. Bush earlier in the week.
By Anonymous, at 11:48 AM
Trust me she can't handle it. I just want to know why she thinks its ok to call judges murderers and tell me that because I am not down there fighting for Terri I am as bad as a person watching watching a train full of Jews go by to thier death. I have a JOB I am not on assisted living and I dont get food stamps I cant run down there on weekends leaving kids behind to fight for something that NONE OF US knows all the details to.
By Anonymous, at 11:51 AM
I don't believe in "god" so no I don't think he is trying to teach me. 2nd off curch and state dont mix so leave religion out of it to begin with!!!!
YLB
By Anonymous, at 11:59 AM
The fact that God has not thus far chosen to heal has no bearing on whether or not we should save a life. God will heal who he will heal and HE has HIS reasons that HE doesn't need to explain to us. Read the book of Job. We still have the one directive to protect innocent life.
By Anonymous, at 12:00 PM
A local radio station announced that the Florida Dept of Law Enforcement told Judge Greer that they will not intervene by placing Terri in protective custody.
By Anonymous, at 12:01 PM
Now I see Jeb says he's disappointed at Supremes decision....
well, Jeb, don't let it ruin your Easter
By Anonymous, at 12:03 PM
Don't get me wrong I feel very bad for Terri and her family I just don't like that you people call a judged a murderer and say if i sit around and don't fight for her i am as bad as a person watching a train full of jews. What is wrong in your heads? this is not how you get people to listen to you, thats how you get people to ignore you.
By Anonymous, at 12:10 PM
LOL It is not me that matters. I just want Sherri to answer a few questions when she gets the guts to.
YLB
By Anonymous, at 12:18 PM
RWNJ
Lets let the courts and lawyers do what they are paid to do i agree with that. While they do thier jobs lets not call them murderers!!!!! ok
YLB
By Anonymous, at 12:20 PM
When the Law is Wrong, a very good piece at http://dory.typepad.com/wittenberg_gate/2005/03/when_the_law_is.html.
As covered there, changes are made my people speaking out, debating, petitioning and appealing – getting people to look beyond the law to see what’s right and wrong.
anon – that’s what we are doing and Sherri has been very gracious in allowing you to voice your opinion.
By Anonymous, at 12:24 PM
YLB
What do you call it when not only does he rule to have the tube removed, but then denies anyone to give her a glass of water by normal means? Where is the law saying we cannot offer someone water?
I am not an expert on law, but this part of it seems to be beyond bias. Doesn't it to you?
You may believe this is about Terri's "right to die." Fine. But id she really wants to die, don't you think she would refuse the water offered to her? And if she is truly in a "vegetative" state then there is no owrry of her being able to accept it and swallow it, right?
These are the parts that just don't make sense.
By Anonymous, at 12:25 PM
Sherri said I am as bad as person watching a train full of Jews she said it not me!!!! And don't give me stuff like that I Saw an aunt pass away 2 weeks ago We knoew it was coming and waited for 14 hours in her room till she died so i know what they are going through!!!
By Anonymous, at 12:27 PM
Then let his bosses decide that RWNJ not youand I we don't know the law like they do!!!!!!!!
YLB
By Anonymous, at 12:28 PM
anon my mother passed away on tuesday of this week so let's not talk about family deaths.
By Anonymous, at 12:29 PM
RWNJ:
How about this: We take Terri off the Starvation/Dehydration Torture Death Sentence that Judge Greer has unilaterally imposed without due process; and then we can institute an independent investigation, including all the depositions, videos, testimony, etc. that Greer has gagged?
Has she not had 15 friggin years of due process? YES. You don't like the answers coming out of the Judicial System because they aren't the answers YOU want to hear.
This has been argued, and argued, and argued and ARGUED ... and the Courts have followed the LAW.
THIS WHOLE SITUATION IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!!!!
By Anonymous, at 12:30 PM
and none of yours as well anon. Now run along :)
By Anonymous, at 12:32 PM
rwnj Isn't it funny to see this LLL hiss and thrash around? We won the white house, congress, and now we're going after their gods, the judges. :)
By Anonymous, at 12:34 PM
I think YLB has a crush on Sherri.
very obsessed with what Sheri thinks, what Sherri does, what Sherri says.
It is like this, if you don't like it, turn the page. Why do you look for a fight? Sherri is doing what she believes to be right. weather you agree with it or not, at least she is sincere. She is not running to your space to rattle about it.
SHerri, you are much more patient than I am, God bless you.
By Anonymous, at 12:36 PM
Folks,
From what I understand, when DCF filed their motion, the were allowed to move and take Terri into custody. I guess they did not know that. Then once Felos filed a motion, Greer granted it, then DCF lost the ability to take her into custody. Where it goes from here, I do not know.
I will keep you all posted as I know things...
YLB
Believe it or not, I sincerely appreciate you being here.
By Straight Up with Sherri, at 12:50 PM
Hey you guys, I've been having trouble posting here and at DL. I either can't get the comment box to come up, or when it does and try to post a comment, it hangs out there in cyberspace until I get a "refresh" page, and it's lost forever.
DWT thinks DL might be under attack. Here too???? Might just be me, but I've tested everything there is to test. I have no problem accessing other sites.
I hope this will post....
By Anonymous, at 12:58 PM
Just to let youknow I do not have a crush on Sherri Lynn I just know her on a personal level. Thank RWNJ My aunt is better off trust me.
By Anonymous, at 1:12 PM
I guess part of what I am trying to say is that if you are trying to pull someone (Greer legaslators, ect...) over the line to your way of thinking, do it from beside the line not from the FAR RIGHT of the line, you wan't be able toreach them from there!!
YLB
By Anonymous, at 1:26 PM
YLB
uhmmmm
and your tactics are the way to reach people?
By Anonymous, at 1:32 PM
I don't have any tactics I am not trying to pull anyone from one side to another I am telling you that call judges murderers and comparing them to Hitler is not the way to be taken seriously.
If you think thats a good way to get people to listen to you, then you need to take your pills and call your shrink.
By Anonymous, at 1:39 PM
What I mean is if Greer is not following the law then yes he can be overturned I wish I knew more about the laws but i do not.
YLB
By Anonymous, at 1:41 PM
YLB
Many of the judges do not enforce the laws on guardians. It actually is a very common thing, especially in Pinellas County, from what I read on the Florida Seniors site.
I can't understand how they can do that and what course of action we can take to stop it. When judges apply following hte law at different standards, it is a shame to us all. Have you read some of the stories on that sight. It's crazy!
RWNJ
What CAN we do when judges just refuse to enforce laws to protect the vulnerable?
By Anonymous, at 1:46 PM
Well so much for LGF. After weeks of hiding, Charles Johnson has come out on the side of murder. I can't believe it. I am so dissappointed.
Marv.
By Anonymous, at 5:53 PM
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