Straight Up with Sherri

Wednesday, March 23, 2005

DCF and Greer Meeting NOW! DCF MAY TAKE CUSTODY!

Hat tip: Marine Momma! FANTASTIC CATCH!!!!!

Bay9 News is saying there's a meeting with Greer and DCF going on now, and he will come up with a decision by noon tomorrow. DCF says they may take custody of Terri before then.

Lucy D. Hadi,
Secretary 1317 Winewood Blvd.Building 1,
Room 202Tallahassee, Florida32399-0700
Phone: (850) 487-1111

117 Comments:

  • It's about time!!! They need to get over there NOW and get her back on nutrition.

    By Anonymous texanista, at 5:36 PM  

  • tex, that's what I told the lady who I talked to down there. They need to act now and not wait until noon. Pls call!!!

    By Anonymous Marine Momma, at 5:37 PM  

  • ok post the number

    By Anonymous texanista, at 5:40 PM  

  • oops I found the number

    By Anonymous texanista, at 5:41 PM  

  • ok just called and had a nice little chat with a woman in the DCF. I wonder if the call volume is low. It rang 3 times and she calmly picked up the line. I couldn't hear anything else going on in the office there....anyone else experience that?

    By Anonymous texanista, at 5:44 PM  

  • texanista

    mailbox is full according to my reports!!!

    KEEP CALLING!!!

    Anyone have any other numbers for FLorida DCF???

    POST THEM!!!

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 5:47 PM  

  • THEY ARE LOGGING THE CALLS!!!

    KEEP CALLING!!!

    SHUT THEM DOWN!!!

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 5:48 PM  

  • Another of Terri's nurses is on Sean H. right now.

    She witnessed another episode of Terri being in hypoglycemic shock, as Carla Iyer did.

    This is a separate incident, it sounds like!

    http://www.wmal.com/listenlive.asp

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:49 PM  

  • Florida Department of Children &Families
    Contact them please!

    dcf-osc@dcf.state.fl.us

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:50 PM  

  • I just talked to a very nice lady! The attendant! After the message of mailbox full, you get transferred!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:52 PM  

  • yep I talked to the same lady.... did you hear any other people on the other end? (like in a call center)

    By Anonymous texanista, at 5:53 PM  

  • KEEP CALLLING!!!!!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:54 PM  

  • I told her if they take Terri into protective custody, they'll be Gods Angels. She chuckled and said thank you

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:58 PM  

  • I called and talked to a nice man. He didn't make any promises other than "I'll pass that on", though... Keep calling!

    By Anonymous Mary in LA, at 5:59 PM  

  • I called and spoke with a very nice man who said he would keep track of my comment.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:00 PM  

  • This is PEOPLE in POWER AT IT'S BEST!!

    I AM SOOO PROUD!!

    LET'S ALL KEEP CALLING!!!

    THANK YOU ALL!!

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 6:00 PM  

  • Well this time I got an answering machine. Oh Lord let this happen soon.

    By Anonymous Marine Momma, at 6:02 PM  

  • THEY ARE GETTING LOTS OF CALLS KEEP IT UP!!!

    SPREAD THE WORD TO ALL YOU KNOW!!!

    ALL YO KNOW!!!

    WE CAN DO THIS!!!

    LET'S ROLL!!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:06 PM  

  • I just called, got transferred from the full mailbox, and got another answering machine in the office of the secretary, where I left my message and told them they would be exceptional if they would accomplish taking her into protective custody and God bless them!! Thank you everyone who is doing something about this!!

    By Anonymous Julie P. in Ohio, at 6:06 PM  

  • Judge Greer just issued an order keeping DCF from taking custody of Terri and putting feeding tube back in. Looks like nothing they can do.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:07 PM  

  • from discardedlies: "18 FloridaHeat at 03:10 PM on March 23, 2005

    Oh, this is a war.

    The Governor had a neurosurgeon from the Mayo Clinic observe Terri and her records. He says she is NOT PVS, but in a state of minimal consciousness. DCF then went to court to have her re-classified as disabled, which gives her protections under the law.

    Greer called the Hospice and said under NO circumstances is DCF allowed to take Terri or is anyone allowed to reinsert the feeding tube.

    The reporter says DCF will take Terri into protective custody no matter what the judge does or says.

    The hospice is heavily guarded, with several stations manned with local police. They are at the entrance to the grounds, inside the door, and at Terri's door. Felos is saying Michael is at Terri's bedside. Her parents have made several visits"

    By Anonymous curmudgeon, at 6:12 PM  

  • JUDGE GREER IS NOT IN POWER HERE!!

    HE IS NOT OVER JEB!!

    THE STATUTE GIVES HIM THE POWER!!

    KEEP CALLING!!

    DON'T LET ANYONE DISCOURAGE YOU!!!

    SPREAD THE WORD.... NOW!!!

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 6:13 PM  

  • My heart hurts. It is breaking.

    By Anonymous Julie P., at 6:13 PM  

  • WOW looks we're back in the '60's in alabama. Looks like the local cops are gonna have some "official" opositon.

    By Anonymous texanista, at 6:15 PM  

  • Whoo! My heart rekindled! Tell everyone you know to call!!!

    By Anonymous Julie P. again, at 6:15 PM  

  • According to CNN, Greer also issued an order that DCF be blocked from access to Terri Schiavo. You read that right. A probate judge telling a Florida agency with the same authority as law enforcement they are not permitted to do their jobs.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:17 PM  

  • TOO BAD!!!

    JUDGE GREER IS NOT OVER JEB BUSH!!!

    WE ARE CALLING!!!

    PERIOD!!!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:17 PM  

  • With all due respect, the governor doesn't have that kind of power. I hate to be negative, but the reality is Greer is going to rule against DCF and it will require more court battles, and Terri doesn't have that much time. It makes me wonder what Greer is trying to hide if he is willing to do this?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:18 PM  

  • They just said on tv that DFC will take her anyway

    anyone else hear this???

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:19 PM  

  • Almighty God, Lord of all, we beg You to intervene at this moment for Terri. Cause the DCF to go into the hospice with no problems and take custody of Terri. Confuse the enemy that has surrounded Terri. Lord please get Terri out of that hospice now and on food thereafter. In You Holy name

    By Anonymous Marine Momma, at 6:19 PM  

  • yep :) I heard that.

    By Anonymous texanista, at 6:19 PM  

  • PAY NO ATTENTION TO ANYTHING THAT SEEMS TO BE PROMPTING YOU TO NOT CALL!!!

    KEEP CALLING UNTIL YOU KNOW TERRI IS SAFE!!!!

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 6:20 PM  

  • It is the judiciary's role to interpret the law. Even the statute that DCF said they would use -- the valid use of that statute is open to the interpretation of the court. That's what the judiciary exists for.

    At the very least, Americans are getting a civics lesson.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:25 PM  

  • Sherry. What good is making a phone call to some poor overworked receptionist. It will require someone other than jeb bush to be able to take her out of there.Armed guards have been instructed to not release her to DCF> It will require someone with more power than the governor. He actually has no say over the DCF. Today he said that very thing at the news conference.Maybe that Federal judge who agreed today of the three from Atlanta court of appeals.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:28 PM  

  • Read this on another blog:

    "Atty Felos and Bushnell are both inside Hospice and shortly after their arrival, WE LEARN OF GREER'S ORDER THAT TERRI CANNOT BE REMOVED."

    Hmmmm... sounds like they were told to be there....

    there's more...

    ADDITIONALLY, FREEPERS, A PINELLAS PARK POLICE CRUISER FOLLOWED ME HOME FROM HOSPICE and ducked down another row of townhouses where I lived so I wouldn't notice them. I NOTICED THEM. Further, earlier at Hospice, a cop was standing around and said "It's gonna get ugly here."

    This could get very ugly....

    BE PREPARED TO STAND STRONG AND NOT BUCKLE TO ANY THING!!!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:31 PM  

  • Anon, don't worry, there is no overworked receptionist getting the calls. Different people have been fielding it, or it is going to a voicemail - spoken by one who has called.

    To Everyone - please do not listen to Anon's negativity right now; Anon has a right to it, but at another time and place. Right now, please keep calling!!

    By Anonymous Julie P., at 6:32 PM  

  • Sherry. What good is making a phone call to some poor overworked receptionist. It will require someone other than jeb bush to be able to take her out of there.Armed guards have been instructed to not release her to DCF> It will require someone with more power than the governor. He actually has no say over the DCF. Today he said that very thing at the news conference.Maybe that Federal judge who agreed today of the three from Atlanta court of appeals.

    awww shucks!

    I guess I should take my ball and go home. NO WAY!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:33 PM  

  • If it makes you feel better keep calling. I'm not negative I'm trying to give you some perspective.I would think someone amongst you could come up with something more helpful to the situation. I wish I could. It looks like it would be hard to storm the hospice,as her "husband" and his lawyers and all the police have instructions not to release her. My point was they will have to have something that will over-ride Greers authority. I would think they are working on it.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:38 PM  

  • JUDGE GREER IS NOT IN POWER HERE!!

    HE IS NOT OVER JEB!!

    THE STATUTE GIVES HIM THE POWER!!

    KEEP CALLING!!

    DON'T LET ANYONE DISCOURAGE YOU!!!

    SPREAD THE WORD.... NOW!!!

    By Straight Up with Sherri, at 6:13 PM


    i hate to tell you this but YOU are not in power here either.

    For God's sake STOP this insanity!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Do you not care about the other families and patients at the hospice? You are actually encouraging DCF to storm the DOORS of what is supposed to be a peaceful place???

    You people are sick indeed.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:47 PM  

  • Why did the movement to prevent Terri's cremation disappear?

    I realize people may be afraid of fragmenting their efforts...but of all things, the cremation prevention is something that people need to be PROACTIVE about, not REACTIVE.

    If Terri is to die, preventing cremation is the only way to find out if it will have been at the hands of Michael. Yet no blogs are covering this right now.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:47 PM  

  • I guess we could do what the libs do...irregardless of what the law does say, do it anyway and deal with the law later when it's too late. LOL
    If scumbag adulterer husband is at Terri's bed what will he do when they come for her? Makes you think.

    By Anonymous Marine Momma, at 6:48 PM  

  • Marine Momma said...

    I guess we could do what the libs do...irregardless of what the law does say, do it anyway and deal with the law later when it's too late. LOL If scumbag adulterer husband is at Terri's bed what will he do when they come for her? Makes you think.


    OMG .. LOLOLOL .. isn't that what you are INCITING JEB BUSH TO DO HERE??????? IRREGARDLESS OF THE LAW????

    THE LAW SAYS THAT MICHAEL SCHIAVO IS THE GUARDIAN.

    Yea and there you go degrading him again. Spoken like a true Christian ... what's the matter ... did your husband cheat on you because you're so pathetic so now you HINGE every argument on "scumbag adulterer Michael Schiavo" ...

    GROW UP

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:54 PM  

  • Sherry I know you really believe what you say and seem to be Religious,but you also seem to be full of yourself. This is not about you its about Terri.I came here because LGF isn't talking about this subject. I can see why Emotions run high and facts sometimes fall by the way-side. Its' back to LGF for me. You're probably glad to hear that.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:55 PM  

  • Do you not care about the other families and patients at the hospice? You are actually encouraging DCF to storm the DOORS of what is supposed to be a peaceful place???

    You people are sick indeed.


    oy!

    yes that is her intent. G-d forbid we interrupt anyone while trying to save someone from murder. Do you think before you type?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:56 PM  

  • Sherri made this about Sherri?

    where? when?

    I like LGF, why is it one or the other? I like both.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:00 PM  

  • How brave, anon... why not post with at least a nic you pathetic wretch?

    By Blogger Smug Monkey, at 7:03 PM  

  • but you also seem to be full of yourself. This is not about you its about Terri.

    you got that right. Sherri is working on her 15 minutes of fame here.

    everyone and everything else be damned!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:03 PM  

  • JUST IN Greer denies DCF. Felos made the argument it was not fair to Terri as she would have to RESTART the DEATH process and that would be suffering. I thought they said this was painless !!!!!!!!!!

    By Blogger megan, at 7:05 PM  

  • "anon" is actually NODROG

    By Anonymous texanista, at 7:05 PM  

  • Smug Monkey said...

    How brave, anon... why not post with at least a nic you pathetic wretch?


    oh do you mean a nick not attached to a profile like yours?

    i assume you're another Christian with the name calling, right?

    By Anonymous What's In A Nick?, at 7:05 PM  

  • anon., nope hubby never cheated on me and we will have 25 years of marriage soon. you libs have made a practice of lying to get your way in the courts. your lies have found you out in this case. as for calling scumbag adulterer michael just that, Jesus called the evil people vipers...would you rather me call him a viper?

    By Anonymous Marine Momma, at 7:06 PM  

  • I just saw on Foxnews Ben Barnes said legally DCFS has the authority and the right to go in with out Greer's approval to get Terri out! he also said that DCFS has immediatly filed an appeal of Judge Greer's order this afternoon/evening after his ruling!

    Melissa

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:07 PM  

  • Don't worry about any attacks on me...

    I am perfectly comfortable in my walk with Christ and my purpose...

    Stay focused...

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 7:12 PM  

  • Ben Barnes said legally DCFS has the authority and the right to go in with out Greer's approval to get Terri out

    That avenue existed (per FL statutes) right up until the point where Greer issued the emergency order explicitly preventing that.

    Which is why they need to appeal that emergency order.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:13 PM  

  • Actually,I know who nodrog is, and that is really funny.I'm a 55 year old republican woman and very conservative.I just thought it would be good to go to a blog that was covering this because it upsets me so.Storming the hospice or calling DCF over and over isn't going to solve the problem. I was hoping to find someone with an idea.I can see you all feel you really are doing something, and that is good. I guess I was hoping for a miracle for Terry and you all might have some thoughts.I may have misjudged Sherri, but I'm as concerned as you all are. God bless and good night

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:14 PM  

  • something to share .. that i find completely ironic.

    a profile: Integrity is my most precious value. My core values are based in Christianity. I love my God, my Savior, my Children, and Israel. My motto: Don't change minds, change LIVES! I am a single mother of 3 beautiful children. I am a conservative that understands that this country's forefathers created America to be The Land of Opportunity, NOT the Land of Entitlements.

    hmmmm ... now let's see. Merriam Webster says:

    Main Entry: in·teg·ri·ty
    Pronunciation: in-'te-gr&-tE
    Function: noun
    Etymology: Middle English integrite, from Middle French & Latin; Middle French integrité, from Latin integritat-, integritas, from integr-, integer entire
    1 : firm adherence to a code of especially moral or artistic values : INCORRUPTIBILITY
    2 : an unimpaired condition : SOUNDNESS
    3 : the quality or state of being complete or undivided : COMPLETENESS
    synonym see HONESTY

    hmmm ... honesty? let's cross that one off the list as we have continued to perpetuate lie after lie after lie about the Schiavo family. i guess the "moral" part ... depends on the definition of moral. who's morality are we discussing. Christ's morality or the bible thumping morality of those Christians who bomb abortion clinics.

    okay . moving along. Merriam Webster says:

    Main Entry: en·ti·tle·ment
    Pronunciation: -'tI-t&l-m&nt
    Function: noun
    1 a : the state or condition of being entitled : RIGHT b : a right to benefits specified especially by law or contract
    2 : a government program providing benefits to members of a specified group; also : funds supporting or distributed by such a program

    hmmm .. entitlement. does this mean the inadherence to the law that the Schindlers continue to perpetuate? the demands they are making on the US Government? are they being entitled? hmmm .. check!

    so basically what you are saying .. and continue to say is your profile "STATEMENT" is fabricated since your actions speak louder than your words.

    *whew* finally some truth at this blog!!

    By Anonymous Not Nordog or Whomever, at 7:19 PM  

  • BREAKING NEWS. I just talked to my mom. She's been following developments all day on her tv. She just heard that DCF was going to go in to get Terri in spite of the Pinellas Park PD. Mom used the term "fireworks". It will be some law enforcement for Jeb/DCF in opposition to the Pinellas Park PD who are for Felos/Hospice/Schiavo.
    DCF SAID THEY WERE GOING IN THERE IN SPITE OF JUDGE GEORGE GREER. (I hope my mom heard right). I told her I would duck if bullets start flying between the PPPD and whomever Jeb's law enforcement will be.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:19 PM  

  • Is Jeb going to risk going against the public? The latest poll is consistent with that ABC one.

    And Pres Bush took an amazing 6 point dive in approval ratings (was it due to his S.S. proposals, his stance on this, neither, both?)

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:20 PM  

  • BOMBING ABORTION CLINICS??

    What the HECK?

    no one here is for that.

    all kinds of accusations now.

    My word.

    It is GREER defying the LAW and the power that the DCF has to intervene someone they feel is in danger. My goodness. I am so sick of people who try to save others being painted as the aggressors.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:22 PM  

  • Marine Momma said...

    anon., nope hubby never cheated on me and we will have 25 years of marriage soon. you libs have made a practice of lying to get your way in the courts. your lies have found you out in this case. as for calling scumbag adulterer michael just that, Jesus called the evil people vipers...would you rather me call him a viper?


    i'm not a liberal. i've stated on here many times what i stand for. YOU are the one who continues to lie ... YOU twist the truth and facts to suit your purpose. YOU make up things just to get your way.

    If Michael Schiavo is a scumbag adulterer .. then Terri Schiavo's parents are the PIMPS that sent him out to be the adulterer.

    YOU are not to judge who is evil .. are you actually calling yourself JESUS????? because last time i checked ... HE was the only one in authority to judge ANYONE.

    I love how you also use PARTS of the Bible that suit you and pretend the rest doesn't exist. CLASSIC.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:22 PM  

  • She just heard that DCF was going to go in to get Terri in spite of the Pinellas Park PD. Mom used the term "fireworks".

    so despite the LAW and the COURTS ... they are going to storm the hospice and physically DRAG her out of there.

    this is a sad day for America.

    may God have mercy on all of you who support this because one day you will be answering for this.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:25 PM  

  • Anonymous,

    Tell us, why are you so eager to see this woman die?

    By Anonymous Sarah D., at 7:28 PM  

  • Anon: I'm fairly certain that the last "BREAKING NEWS" post was really a rehashing of what has been talked about in this thread since 6:12pm ET

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:28 PM  

  • Sarah D .. i have already answered this question from you today .. on this web log. however, becuase i'm such a kind and caring person, i'll do you a favor and post it again:



    Sarah D ...

    where did i once say i wanted her to die? please cut and paste where i've said that. see how you twist and skew facts and reality to suit your own agenda and purpose?

    what i have said .. over and over ... that you fail to hear .. or understand is that this is not YOUR BATTLE to fight! this is not your business. this is not YOUR family. this is not YOUR RIGHT to get involved in something that doesn't concern you.

    you "all" have time and time again made horrific accusations against Michael Schiavo. time and time again you put down everyone who doesn't agree with you. you twist facts to suit you .. you twist the truth to put you in a better light.

    you ignore reality.

    WHY AREN'T YOU FIGHTING FOR ALL THE HOMELESS CHILDREN IN THE UNITED STATES WHO GO TO BED EVERY NIGHT HUNGRY?

    WHY DON'T YOU FIGHT FOR HOMELESS PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO WHERE TO EAT OR SLEEP?

    WHY DON'T YOU FIGHT FOR THE ELDERLY WHO SIT IN A NURSING HOME DAY AFTER DAY WITH NO ONE TO VISIT THEM OR TO CARE ABOUT THEM?

    why don't you try and do something that you can effect .. rather than trying to get involved in something that doesn't concern YOU?

    this always was ... Michael Schiavo's battle. He is married to Terri Schiavo. He is her husband. He is her guardian. He lived with her. He loves her.

    you can degrade him all you want .. you can lie all you want .. but ultimately GOD knows the truth ... and what is happening is God's will. do you not get this?

    if God wasn't ready to take Terri Schiavo .. He would preform a miracle right now .. wasn't it Miami Motor Mouth Momma who said that God raised Lazarus?

    By Anonymous, at 6:38 PM


    there .. does that answer your question?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:33 PM  

  • I'm willing to answer for my support for Terri to whomever may ask me about it.

    There's no need to insult Sherri. After all, this is her blog. She could close comments on it if she wanted to. I hope she won't, but now that some of her guests have started insulting their hostess, I wouldn't blame her if she did.

    By Anonymous Mary in LA, at 7:33 PM  

  • anon...you make me laugh! You'll not twist my words, the Lord rebuke you. Jesus said to test the spirit of the one talking and you are not a good one sweetie. Go back to the pit where you cam from.

    By Anonymous Marine Momma, at 7:36 PM  

  • the means we want to accomplish is the saving of Terri's life. WE do this because of all the fraud that has put her here in the first place. Her case will save many lives for years to come because of the evidence that will be reviewed.

    By Anonymous texanista, at 7:37 PM  

  • Anonymous,

    You have no idea what I do, or do not do.

    Your words are empty. You are here, because you are waiting gleefully for this woman to die. It is quite obvious.

    I have never stated anything about Michael Schiavo that was linked from an article - so check YOUR facts.

    If you are waiting for a miracle to save her, why don't you go pray for her - rather than denigrating everyone on this site?

    Truth be told, I think you are simply a liar. You are frothing at the mouth for Terri's right to DIE - and that's it.

    By Anonymous Sarah D., at 7:37 PM  

  • "
    WHY DON'T YOU FIGHT FOR THE ELDERLY WHO SIT IN A NURSING HOME DAY AFTER DAY WITH NO ONE TO VISIT THEM OR TO CARE ABOUT THEM?"

    That's exactly what we are doing; dipshit.

    By Anonymous texanista, at 7:39 PM  

  • There's no need to insult Sherri. After all, this is her blog. She could close comments on it if she wanted to. I hope she won't, but now that some of her guests have started insulting their hostess, I wouldn't blame her if she did.

    oh i get it. the only people who can insult others here are the regular posters. they can insult and call names to anyone they want to, right? is that what you're saying?

    by the way .. insulting and telling the TRUTH are two very different things. you may want to look that up at www.m-w.com (that's Merriam Webster)

    oh my bad .. i forgot you right wingers have a problem with the truth ... you wouldn't recognize it if it slapped you in the face.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:41 PM  

  • Let me take this time to spew some terribly hatefilled words about our boy, the "hubby", for the trolls to feed upon: He has deliberately misapropriated the funds from his lawsuit and instead spent them on his piece on the side and other things that are for his own edification. Additionally, he PROMISED under oath during the lawsuit that he would "go to nursing school and spend the rest of his life taking care of Terri"...

    By Anonymous texanista, at 7:42 PM  

  • Florida Heat on Discarded Lies is talking to her daughter on a cell who is at the hospice. DCF just went in

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:43 PM  

  • looks like the troll is coming unglued..... did I mention that I have to kick a puppy every time a troll gets out of hand???

    By Anonymous curmudgeon, at 7:44 PM  

  • Marine Momma said...

    anon...you make me laugh! You'll not twist my words, the Lord rebuke you. Jesus said to test the spirit of the one talking and you are not a good one sweetie. Go back to the pit where you cam from.


    and you better look in the mirror Momma because NEITHER are you.

    The Lord rebuke me? what the hell - are you Tammy Fay???

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:44 PM  

  • Sarah D. said...

    Anonymous,

    You have no idea what I do, or do not do.

    Your words are empty. You are here, because you are waiting gleefully for this woman to die. It is quite obvious.

    I have never stated anything about Michael Schiavo that was linked from an article - so check YOUR facts.

    If you are waiting for a miracle to save her, why don't you go pray for her - rather than denigrating everyone on this site?

    Truth be told, I think you are simply a liar. You are frothing at the mouth for Terri's right to DIE - and that's it.


    you are pathetic. you are a flaming hypocrite. you denigrate EVERYONE who doesn't agree with you .. you denigrate everyone who isn't on the side of the Schindlers.

    you do not know ME or anything about me. i've said countless times what i stand for ... YOU on the other hand stand for NOTHING.

    WHY DID YOU NOT ANSWER MY QUESTION? WHY ARE YOU NOT HELPING HOMELESS CHILDREN?

    you are a hateful woman to say that i would wish anyone dead.

    i am sad for you ... for YOU are empty ...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:47 PM  

  • Tammy Faye? Is she here? I'm so excited! Tammy, I've always wanted to know what brand mascara you use? Please?

    By Anonymous Sarah D., at 7:47 PM  

  • oops there goes another puppy

    By Anonymous curmudgeon, at 7:49 PM  

  • Let me take this time to spew some terribly hatefilled words about our boy, the "hubby", for the trolls to feed upon: He has deliberately misapropriated the funds from his lawsuit and instead spent them on his piece on the side and other things that are for his own edification. Additionally, he PROMISED under oath during the lawsuit that he would "go to nursing school and spend the rest of his life taking care of Terri"...

    print the facts that back that up, for i have read that these are simply allegations that have NO basis in fact.

    this is what i have from court documents .. now show me what you have that FACTUALLY disputes this:

    In 1993, the malpractice action concluded in Theresa and Michael’s favor, resulting in a two element award: More than $750,000 in economic damages for Theresa, and a loss of consortium award (non economic damages) of $300,000 to Michael. The court established a trust fund for Theresa’s financial award, with SouthTrust Bank as the Guardian and an independent trustee. This fund was meticulously managed and accounted for and Michael Schiavo had no control over its use. There is no evidence in the record of the trust administration documents of any mismanagement of Theresa’s estate, and the records on this matter are excellently maintained.

    Of Michael Schiavo, there is the incorrect perception that he has refused to relinquish his guardianship because of financial interests, and more recently, because of allegations that he actually abused Theresa and seeks to hide this. There is no evidence in the record to substantiate any of these perceptions or allegations.


    PROVE IT

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:51 PM  

  • Okay, everybody, recommend that we quit quarreling. It just chews up bandwidth. You can all flame me if you like for trying to be the "manners cops", but we need to remember that we need to get along with each other in the morning, whether Terri is safe (as I hope she will be) or dead.

    It's out of our hands now. I've called/faxed/e-mailed everyone I can think of.

    The next step: Articulating the Constitutional case for the efforts to save Terri. Many conservatives are incensed by the Congress taking such extraordinary steps, and fear that it presages government intrusion into private life on an unprecedented scale. It is now time to make the case, based on the 14th Amendment, that Terri did not lose her individual rights when she married. Married women are not the property of their husbands.

    It is also time for everyone, on whichever side, to make a living will and make their individual wishes known.

    By Anonymous Mary in LA, at 7:53 PM  

  • uhhh it wasn't "anonymous" that said that my dear troll. It was ME.
    I'm not going to give you any proof at all so why don't you get all spun up and scream some more? :) The proof is only for the trial.

    By Anonymous texanista, at 7:55 PM  

  • I denigraded Tammy Faye? Well, I certainly didn't mean to!!!

    Tammy! Please forgive me!

    By Anonymous Sarah D., at 7:55 PM  

  • {{{{{{{mary in la}}}}}}}

    By Anonymous texanista, at 7:56 PM  

  • I certainly hope cermudgeon isn't out getting more puppies.

    On another front looks like we are now caring for Terri...

    By Anonymous texanista, at 7:58 PM  

  • It is also time for everyone, on whichever side, to make a living will and make their individual wishes known.

    this is the wisest thing that has come off of this website .... good advice.

    i actually had a living will drawn up after i had to make the decision for my mother 3 years ago.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:58 PM  

  • anonymous..... Can I be your guardian?:)

    By Anonymous curmudgeon, at 8:00 PM  

  • texanista said...

    uhhh it wasn't "anonymous" that said that my dear troll. It was ME.
    I'm not going to give you any proof at all so why don't you get all spun up and scream some more? :) The proof is only for the trial.

    7:55 PM


    uhh...psst .. Einstein .. i didn't SAY anonymous said it ... if you look it's the name of the post that comes first . i bolded your text ...

    yep .. you're a bright one aintcha? LMFAO

    and i know .. you can't provide proof because you don't HAVE proof .. you're spouting allegations and lies ....

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:02 PM  

  • Back atcha, {{{{texanista}}}}! :-)

    While we're at it, there's an argument running around the blogosphere that President Bush has no business trying to save Terri when he signed the "Futile Care" law in Texas, which provides that a hospital may stop providing care to a patient after 10 days if there is no prospect of recovery.

    Texanista, your nickname implies the situation in Texas. ;-) I was dismayed by this, especially after I read about 6-month-old Sun Hudson who was born with a severe lung defect and died after his ventilator was turned off. However, NRO enlightened me: The provisions of the "Futile Care" law are actually better than pre-existing Texas law, which only granted 3 days, and no appeal from the hospital ethics board's decision. The "Futile Care" law provides 10 days and the possibility of appeal. Sounds like a clear improvement to me. Spread the word when you run across this argument in comments sections... ;-)

    By Anonymous Mary in LA, at 8:02 PM  

  • Local news: Greer is putting off a review of DCF's appeal until tomorrow afternoon.

    By Anonymous Sarah D., at 8:03 PM  

  • "uhh...psst .. Einstein .. i didn't SAY anonymous said it ... if you look it's the name of the post that comes first . i bolded your text ...

    yep .. you're a bright one aintcha? LMFAO

    and i know .. you can't provide proof because you don't HAVE proof .. you're spouting allegations and lies ...."

    THat's exactly right... and thank you for the lovely quotes.:) I think I have all I need for now. Thanks for playing.

    By Anonymous texanista, at 8:04 PM  

  • PROVE IT


    LOL!!

    all those documents have already been posted on this blog.

    Try doing some reading.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:05 PM  

  • ...Your nickname implies that you know something about the legal situation in Texas...

    Arrgh! Mr. Preview is not being my very good friend right now. >:-( Sorry 'bout that, texanista.

    By Anonymous Mary in LA, at 8:06 PM  

  • anonymous..... Can I be your guardian?:)

    aww .. look at you ... did you laugh too when i said i had to make this decision 3 years ago for my mother?

    you're so funny .. such a big man you are. LOL

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:07 PM  

  • I actually haven't kept up with those laws locally. I'll have to look into that. Thanks for mentioning it.

    By Anonymous texanista, at 8:08 PM  

  • Anonymice: You don't have to be anonymous, and you don't have to have a Blogger identity either. Just check "Other", then enter a nickname.

    Maybe this will clear up some of the confusion and flaming.

    By Anonymous Mary in LA, at 8:09 PM  

  • I think Lilleth would be a good name for our friend anonymous.

    By Anonymous texanista, at 8:11 PM  

  • I'M BACK WITH MORE PUPPIES...
    Now, what has transpired since I left?
    hmmm?

    By Anonymous curmudgeon, at 8:16 PM  

  • okay .. good idea ... anonymice ... whether it was a typo or intended .. it's funny ... and laughter would be good about now.

    OOPS ... laughter that might lead some people here to believe i'm dancing on the open grave of Terri Schiavo .. throwing fairy dust around and singing Kumbaya.

    By Anonymous Anonymice, at 8:16 PM  

  • "Anonymice" was intended as a whimsical plural for "Anonymous" since we had multiple Anonymouseseseses. ;-) I think it makes a fine nickname! Wear it in good health. :-)

    By Anonymous Mary in LA, at 8:19 PM  

  • was just sitting here with my daughter curled up on my lap... saying she wanted to stay with me forever...

    what timing they have...


    made me think about what they will miss with my grandma, what Terri has missed out on.... what I have been blessed with...

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 8:21 PM  

  • hmmm and not because i am making this be about me .. because it isn't .. i felt the need to share something that i posted earlier elsewhere on this blog ... that was probably missed. everyone keeps making assumptions about *me* .. and what i think and believe in ... so this should take away some of the mystery:

    i'm a 40 year old woman ... single .. with a 21 year old child and a grandson. i work full-time .. own my own home. i was in the legal profession for 25 years and now work for a non-profit organization which helps low income people find affordable housing and become home owners. i have been a single parent since my son was 1. i have had to make a similar decision for my mother 3 years ago. both of my parents are dead ~ my father passed when i was 10.

    I am pro-life (anti-abortion).

    I am AGAINST the death penalty.

    I am FOR stem cell research.

    I am FOR human rights.

    I am AGAINST war.

    I BELIEVE in marriage and family.

    I am AGAINST homelessness and the fact that one single child in AMERICA goes to bed hungry at night.

    I am FOR animal rights.

    there are a multitude of other things ... but i am far from the troll you would make me out to be.

    what i am not is a patsy ... and strongly believe in my convictions. i still believe that interference into this issue is WRONG.

    By Anonymous Anonymice/Lillith, at 8:32 PM  

  • what i am not is a patsy ... and strongly believe in my convictions. i still believe that interference into this issue is WRONG.

    troll or not-- you are welcome here...

    for the latest on the scene reports though-- you may want to go to discarded lies...

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 8:37 PM  

  • i peeped over there and it's the same as here ... Michael Schiavo is a lout, an abuser, he beat Terri and now is murdering her to cover it up ...

    i can hardly stand the false accusations anymore.

    By Anonymous Anonymice/Lillith, at 8:48 PM  

  • go check out hyscience if you want to see the actual images of her bones ect. for proof of abuse. they are there. Does anyone here know the link?

    By Anonymous texanista, at 8:55 PM  

  • Who is Michael Schiavo?

    PINELLAS PARK, Fla. - He's been accused of being a money-grubbing, wife-beating attempted murderer. But before the conflict and all the publicity, Michael Schiavo lived a quiet life with his wife, Terri.

    Five years into their marriage, an eating disorder led to a chemical imbalance that caused a sudden heart attack, resulting in her medical condition. Schiavo insists he was — and is — a loving husband.

    "I never thought I'd have to prove myself to the world," he says.

    Back in 1991, Michael was pushing for his wife's rehabilitation. He even studied nursing to help with her care

    Then Michael sued her doctors and more than $1 million was awarded for medical negligence. After legal fees, $700,000 paid for Terri's medical care and $300,000 went to Michael for the impact on his marriage. Now, 12 years later, reportedly all but $40,000 is gone.

    In the years since, Michael Schiavo's made a life with another woman and has fathered two children. Critics — including Terri's Roman Catholic family — charge that's a moral conflict of interest.

    "Her husband, Michael, has not been faithful to the marriage, and therefore it's difficult to see how he could be the one that has her best interest at heart," says Father Michael Orsi, a research fellow for law and religion at Ave Maria School of Law in Ann Arbor, Mich.

    Not everyone agrees.

    "I want people to know he's a loving guy, he's a caring guy," says Michael's older brother, Scott. "He's not an animal. If he had divorced Terri, it would have been, 'he was only into this for the money.'"

    Michael Schiavo supporters say, in the end, this is a husband's personal loss as well.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7278663/

    rant and rave all you want. he's not an animal. he's not an abuser. he's not a murderer.

    to me, if he didn't care about her, he would have turned over guardianship to her parents years ago and moved on with this life without looking back. he didn't. he stayed because he wanted to see through .. Terri's wishes.

    he could have easily divorced her, turned over guardianship and washed his hands of her. his $300,000 would have still been his.

    he's got the world looking at him .... if he didn't lover her and care about her wishes .. why on earth would he put himself through this hell that the world is putting him through??

    he wouldn't.

    if he was all about the money .. why didn't he accept the recent offer of $1 million to turn over guardianship and go away?

    he didn't.

    By Anonymous Anonymice/Lillith, at 9:03 PM  

  • texanista said...

    go check out hyscience if you want to see the actual images of her bones ect. for proof of abuse. they are there. Does anyone here know the link?


    how would that prove that HE is the offender?

    if she was bulemic .. she was not getting any kind of nutrients. i'm sure her bones were very fragile. how do you know any alleged injury was caused by him?

    were you there?

    did she ever tell her parents he was abusing her?

    do you think that if Terri was as close to her parents as they want you to believe that if she was being abused she wouldn't have TOLD someone?

    if so, why did they have such a great relationship for such a long time after?

    they were trying to get pregnant. she was having trouble with this because of the eating disorder.

    and .. has anyone ever stopped to think that Terri had issues anyway because of her severe eating disorder? where did those come from? she had these problems LONG before she met Michael Schiavo .. she was 250 lbs at 18 years old .. lost 100 lbs because of the eating disorder and THEN met Michael Schiavo.

    it makes NO SENSE.

    By Anonymous Anonymice/Lillith, at 9:09 PM  

  • this will be long:

    About three years later, without the apparent knowledge of her parents, Theresa and Michael sought assistance in becoming pregnant through an obstetrician who specialized in fertility services. For over a year, Theresa and Michael received fertility services and counseling in order to enhance their strongly held desire to have a child. By this time, Theresa’s weight had dropped even further, to 110 pounds. She was very proud of her fabulous figure and her stunning appearance, wearing bikini bathing suits for the first time and taking great pride in her improved good looks. Testimony and photographs bare witness to these facts.

    On the tragic early morning of 25 February 1990, Theresa collapsed in the hallway of her apartment, waking Michael, who called Theresa’s family and 911. The lives of Theresa,
    Michael and the Schindlers were to change forever. Theresa suffered a cardiac arrest. During the several minutes it took for paramedics to arrive, Theresa experienced loss of oxygen to the brain, or anoxia, for a period sufficiently long to cause permanent loss of brain function. Despite heroic efforts to resuscitate, Theresa remained unconscious and slipped into a coma. She was intubated, ventilated and trached, meaning that she was given life saving medical technological
    interventions, without which she surely would have died that day.

    The cause of the cardiac arrest was adduced to a dramatically reduced potassium level in Theresa’s body. Sodium and potassium maintain a vital, chemical balance in the human body that helps define the electrolyte levels. The cause of the imbalance was not clearly identified, but may be linked, in theory, to her drinking 10-15 glasses of iced tea each day. While no formal proof emerged, the medical records note that the combination of aggressive weight loss, diet control and excessive hydration raised questions about Theresa suffering from Bulimia, an eating disorder, more common among women than men, in which purging through vomiting, laxatives and other methods of diet control becomes obsessive.

    (continued)

    By Anonymous Anonymice/Lillith, at 9:26 PM  

  • Hey Lilleth

    I really liked you on cheers.

    By Blogger jlfintx, at 9:26 PM  

  • (continued)

    Theresa spent two and a half months as an inpatient at Humana Northside Hospital, eventually emerging from her coma state, but not recovering consciousness. On 12 May
    1990, following extensive testing, therapy and observation, she was discharged to the College Park skilled care and rehabilitation facility. Forty-nine days later, she was transferred again to Bayfront Hospital for additional, aggressive rehabilitation efforts. In September of 1990, she was brought home, but following only three weeks, she was returned to the College Park facility because the "family was overwhelmed by Terry’s care needs.”

    On 18 June 1990, Michael was formally appointed by the court to serve as Theresa’s legal guardian, because she was adjudicated to be incompetent by law. Michael’s
    appointment was undisputed by the parties.

    The clinical records within the massive case file indicate that Theresa was not responsive to neurological and swallowing tests. She received regular and intense physical, occupational and speech therapies.

    Theresa’s husband, Michael Schiavo and her mother, Mary Schindler, were virtual partners in their care of and dedication to Theresa. There is no question but that complete trust, mutual caring, explicit love and a common goal of caring for and rehabilitating Theresa, were the shared intentions of Michael Shiavo and the Schindlers.

    In late Autumn of 1990, following months of therapy and testing, formal diagnoses of persistent vegetative state with no evidence of improvement, Michael took Theresa to
    California, where she received an experimental thalamic stimulator implant in her brain. Michael remained in California caring for Theresa during a period of several months and returned to Florida with her in January of 1991. Theresa was transferred to the Mediplex Rehabilitation Center in Brandon, where she received 24 hour skilled care, physical, occupational, speech and recreational therapies.

    Despite aggressive therapies, physician and other clinical assessments consistently revealed no functional abilities, only reflexive, rather than cognitive movements, random
    eye opening, no communication system and little change cognitively or functionally.

    On 19 July 1991 Theresa was transferred to the Sable Palms skilled care facility. Periodic neurological exams, regular and aggressive physical, occupational and speech
    therapy continued through 1994.

    (continued)

    By Anonymous Anonymice/Lillith, at 9:29 PM  

  • (continued)

    Michael Schiavo, on Theresa’s and his own behalf, initiated a medical malpractice lawsuit against the obstetrician who had been over seeing Theresa’s fertility therapy. In 1993, the malpractice action concluded in Theresa and Michael’s favor, resulting in a two element award: More than $750,000 in economic damages for Theresa, and a loss of consortium award (non economic damages) of $300,000 to Michael. The court established a trust fund for Theresa’s financial award, with SouthTrust Bank as the Guardian and an independent trustee. This fund was meticulously managed and accounted for and Michael Schiavo had no control over its use. There is no evidence in the record of the trust administration documents of any mismanagement of Theresa’s estate, and the records on this matter are excellently maintained.

    After the malpractice case judgment, evidence of disaffection between the Schindlers and Michael Schiavo openly emerged for the first time. The Schindlers petitioned the court to remove Michael as Guardian. They made allegations that he was not caring for Theresa, and that his behavior was disruptive to Theresa’s treatment and condition. Proceedings concluded that there was no basis for the removal of Michael as Guardian Further, it was determined that he had been very aggressive and attentive in his care of Theresa. His demanding concern for her well being and meticulous care by the nursing
    home earned him the characterization by the administrator as “a nursing home administrator’s nightmare”. It is notable that through more than thirteen years after Theresa’s collapse, she has never had a bedsore.

    By 1994, Michael’s attitude and perspective about Theresa’s condition changed. During the previous four years, he had insistently held to the premise that Theresa could recover and the evidence is incontrovertible that he gave his heart and soul to her treatment and care. This was in the face of consistent medical reports indicating that there was little or no likelihood for her improvement.

    (continued)

    By Anonymous Anonymice/Lillith, at 9:32 PM  

  • In early 1994 Theresa contracted a urinary tract infection and Michael, in consultation with Theresa’s treating physician, elected not to treat the infection and simultaneously imposed a “do not resuscitate” order should Theresa experience cardiac arrest. When the nursing facility initiated an intervention to challenge this decision, Michael cancelled the orders. Following the incident involving the infection, Theresa was transferred to another skilled nursing facility.

    Michael’s decision not to treat was based upon discussions and consultation with Theresa’s doctor, and was predicated on his reasoned belief that there was no longer any hope for Theresa’s recovery. It had taken Michael more than three years to accommodate this reality and he was beginning to accept the idea of allowing Theresa to die naturally rather than remain in the non-cognitive, vegetative state.

    It took Michael a long time to consider the prospect of getting on with his life – something he was actively encouraged to do by the Schindlers, long before enmity tore them apart. He was even encouraged by the Schindlers to date, and introduced his in-law family to women he was dating. But this was just prior to the malpractice case ending.

    As part of the first challenge to Michael’s Guardianship, the court appointed John H. Pecarek as Guardian Ad Litem to determine if there had been any abuse by Michael
    Schiavo. His report, issued 1 March 1994, found no inappropriate actions and indicated that Michael had been very attentive to Theresa.

    After two more years of legal contention, the Schindlers action against Michael was dismissed with prejudice. Efforts to remove Michael as Guardian were attempted in subsequent years, without success.

    *****

    The hearings and testimony before the trial court leading to the decision to discontinue artificial life support included admitted hearsay from Theresa’s brother-in-law (Michael Schiavo’s brother) and his wife (Michael’s Schiavo’s sister-in-law) along with testimony from Michael.

    The testimony of these parties referenced specific conversations in which Theresa commented about her desire never to be placed on artificial life support. The testimony reflected conversations at or proximate to funerals of close family members who had been on artificial life support. The context and content of the testimony, while hearsay, was deemed credible and consistent and was used by the court as a supporting bases for its decision to discontinue artificial life support.

    Testimony provided by members of the Schindler family included very personal statements about their desire and intention to ensure that Theresa remain alive. Throughout the course of the litigation, deposition and trial testimony by members of the Schindler family voiced the disturbing belief that they would keep Theresa alive at any and all costs.

    Nearly gruesome examples were given, eliciting agreement by family members that in the event Theresa should contract diabetes and subsequent gangrene in
    each of her limbs, they would agree to amputate each limb, and would then, were she to be diagnosed with heart disease, perform open heart surgery.

    There was additional, difficult testimony that appeared to establish that despite the sad and undesirable condition of Theresa, the parents still derived joy from having her alive, even if Theresa might not be at all aware of her environment given the persistent vegetative state. Within
    the testimony, as part of the hypotheticals presented, Schindler family members stated that even if Theresa had told them of her intention to have artificial nutrition withdrawn, they would not do it. Throughout this painful and difficult trial, the family acknowledged that Theresa was in a diagnosed persistent vegetative state.

    ***********

    the reason that Michael has not turned over guardianship to the Schiavos is that they have testified that even if they had heard it from Terri's own mouth, they would not respect her wishes to not be kept alive artifically.

    how incredibly selfish is that?

    Michael Schiavo is simply trying to grant his wife's wishes.


    http://abstractappeal.com/schiavo/WolfsonReport.pdf

    By Anonymous Anonymice/Lillith, at 9:40 PM  

  • jlfintx

    Hey Lilleth

    I really liked you on cheers


    LOL!!

    ROFLLL!!

    Thanks!
    I neede that laugh!!

    Oh by the way little troll-- I don't have the patience right now to blast all your stuff to smitherines-- but I will correct at least one thing...
    Michael Schiavo won't turn over guardianship (at least according to his words in 1993- ya never can tell wth him which story to follow- but) was because the Schindlers made his life hell...

    BY the way that testimony was on November 19, 1993.

    WAHH!!!

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 10:48 PM  

  • oh look .. now the TRUE Christian Sherri comes out .. laughing at someone .. .ridiculing someone ...

    Such a good Christian you are. No wait .. I think the word is hypocrite.

    I'm sorry .. what was it you were saying? The report was from when?

    A REPORT TO GOVERNOR JEB BUSH
    AND THE 6 TH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT
    IN THE MATTER OF THERESA MARIE SCHIAVO
    Pursuant to the requirements of H.B. 35-E (Chapter 2003-418, Laws of Florida) and the Order of the Hon. David Demers, Chief Judge, Florida 6th Judicial Circuit regarding the appointment and duties of a Guardian Ad Litem in the matter of Theresa Marie Schiavo,
    Incapacitated.

    Respectfully Submitted
    Jay Wolfson, DrPH, JD, Guardian Ad Litem for Theresa Marie Schiavo
    1 December 2003

    Blast away ... blow all of this testimony from the Schindlers away ... I mean they WERE the ones that testified and all ....

    The Poster Formerly Known as Lillith ....

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