posted by Straight Up with Sherri at
7:46 PM
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75 Comments:
how are you involved in this?
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njm, at 7:58 PM
anonymous
I am trying to protect htis person until the info is verified.. this way if the info is incorrect-- I TAKE THE HEAT FOR A BAD SOURCE rather than letting someone else go down in flames...
FULL CREDIT WILL COME TO THE SOURCE WHEN VERIFIED-- But until then I was trying to be cautious...
I removed the comment once, and explained.... if you feel the need to repost it fine, but I just wanted a chance to protect the source in case this turned out to be false...
I will not remove it again, I just wanted to have a chance to explain that I am trying to protect someone form getting blasted if it not accurate....
thanks...
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Straight Up with Sherri, at 8:00 PM
Understood, Sherri. It's your blog and I of course defer those decisions to you!
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Anonymous, at 8:03 PM
whats a DCF?
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njm, at 8:05 PM
Um... the source is 'Florida Heat' on www.discardedlies.com
I have no idea what Sherri is talking about, 'trying to protect the source' from what?
Does anyway care at all about the other patients and families being besieged by 1000 people and a media circus. How truly horrible and disrespectful to the hospice and those who work and die there these 'demonstrators' are.
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Anonymous, at 8:05 PM
sherri, come over to DL if you get a chance. FloridaHeat is on the phone with her daughter who's outside the hospice and giving on the spot updates.
-Lyana
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Anonymous, at 8:05 PM
DCF is Florida's Department of Children and Families.
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Anonymous, at 8:12 PM
Okay
well, that is fine...
I was only trying to help..
I was there on the ground for 2 weekends... I heard MANY rumors that ended up to be not true..
was only trying to be careful....
that is all
njm
DCF= Department of Children and Families.... in Florida...
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Straight Up with Sherri, at 8:12 PM
Anonymous said...
Um... the source is 'Florida Heat' on www.discardedlies.com
I have no idea what Sherri is talking about, 'trying to protect the source' from what?
Does anyway care at all about the other patients and families being besieged by 1000 people and a media circus. How truly horrible and disrespectful to the hospice and those who work and die there these 'demonstrators' are.
8:05 PM
yea i stated this earlier too and was told that those other people are a) dying b) they get to eat and c) they won't be in the way so they are irrelevant right now.
nice, eh?
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Anonymous, at 8:13 PM
If something isn’t done soon,,,well, reports were that she wasn’t as strong this time as she was previously. Organs are starting to deteriorate and shut down and will have a hard time functioning right. The up most of care will have to be given when restarting hydration, this is very critical. Time is not a commodity that Terri has; they can delay no longer.
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Anonymous, at 8:15 PM
Terri should never have been put into a hospice, because she wasn't dying. (Although she is now...)
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Anonymous, at 8:16 PM
Sherri has exhibited good rumor-control abilities before...especially when the other blogs were all reporting infection and fever. Sherri kept everyone level-headed here about those false rumors. Just an FYI.
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Anonymous, at 8:22 PM
mary in la
AMEN! I cannot believe how much they have gotten away with.
Melissa
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Anonymous, at 8:22 PM
Ya'll may want to go to Discarded lies to get the best and quickest inormation of what is going on at the hospice...
HERE
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Straight Up with Sherri, at 8:32 PM
Mary in LA:
interesting statement.
lest i open a can of worms ... do you think she was placed there so many years ago because she was deemed to be in a PVS and there was no chance of recovery? they had no idea of how long she would remain alive?
do you believe it was a malicious intent?
(God help me for asking this question ...)
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Anonymous, at 8:41 PM
Lillith, I do feel it was malicious intent. A requirement to be placed in a hospice facility is certification from a physician that the person is terminal and there is six months or less to live.
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Anonymous, at 8:50 PM
i' m sorry Dee .. i had directed the question at Mary in LA.
i know what the rest of you think of him.
i'm sure you can't put your head around that at one time his family thought she had less than 6 months to live.
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Anonymous, at 8:55 PM
lillith
do your homework!
not even the doctors deemed her as terminal! you must be diagnosed as terminal with expectency of 6 months or less to live in order to go to hospice.
stick around, we will educate you
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Anonymous, at 9:02 PM
to be a Hospice patient you have to have 6mo or less of your life and two doctors have to sign for you.
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Anonymous, at 9:05 PM
It appears that DCF is there only to retrieve the 4 remaining video tapes of Terri... not sure... waiting for news..
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Straight Up with Sherri, at 9:07 PM
not even the doctors deemed her as terminal! you must be diagnosed as terminal with expectency of 6 months or less to live in order to go to hospice.
stick around, we will educate you
YOU just contridicted yourself.
if she has to be diagnosed as terminal to be in a hospice .. THEN HOW THE HELL DID SHE GET ACCEPTED THERE?
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Anonymous, at 9:11 PM
she was put there by a coalition of "right to die" advocates that the hubby chatted up..... his lawyer is one of them.....then they shopped the case and found Greer who is on the board of that place.... yada yada yada....now you get it?
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Anonymous, at 9:14 PM
Ya know, I"m getting concerned that after so long without water, it may not matter if the DCF finally gets to intervene. Terri is likely to begin to suffer organ damage soon...if she hasn't already.
This is just too much....horror. I've spent the last two weeks being physically ill over this...vomiting, ulcers, diarrhea. I know it's psychosomatic due to getting so emotional, but crimeny...someone's dying here! I feel so helpless, I've done everything I can think of, but no one seems to listen to their constituents nor care about the truth. Things are legal so they're hunky dorey with it. Obviously I'm not.
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Anonymous, at 9:14 PM
LILLETH!
Because FELOS WAS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD! This is what we have been trying to tell you!
They have had her in Hospice for 5 years now!
They are supposed to have COURT permission to move her to hospice-- they didn't do that...
Guardians are REQUIRED to file a report on the status and plan of care once a year for the ward.. Michael doesn;t do this...
he is NOT HELD TO THE LAW!
AND GREER LET'S HIM GET AWAY WITH IT!
In fact...
This is actually COMMON in Pinellas County... Guardians are NOT held to the LAW of their responsibilies...
Please look into it..
go to other places if you have to... don't trust me-- look it up!
Michael and Felos are NEVER held to the law and Greer lets them get away with it...
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Straight Up with Sherri, at 9:17 PM
I have witnessed this type of thing several times before.... especially in the '90's. That's one of the main reasons I got out of healthcare and now follow these things as an outside advocate. Now I can watch them without risking my job.
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Anonymous, at 9:17 PM
eeeeeeevile, looks like alot of people out there just don't know the facts at all.... what can I say..
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Anonymous, at 9:23 PM
texanista
YOU SAID IT ALL RIGHT THERE!
We are made out to be the loons!
AMAZING!
BTW
Thanks so much for all you are doing!
You are truly ONE OF A KIND!
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Straight Up with Sherri, at 9:26 PM
hey, y'all talking about ME? ;)
My daughter lives about 10 blocks from the hospice. I had planned on going there today with other family members, but we all woke up with a nasty stomach bug. Lacking news on TV, I asked Emily to go down and talk to the people on the scene, and I pasted information to discardedlies as I got it from her in text message, then a phone call.
She wouldn't make anything up (not that I am implying you're implying...) but with things like this you just don't know what is gossip and what is true. So, I messaged her again -
[21:14] mary: hey, there hasnt been anything on the news about dcf going into the hospice
[21:14] mary: how do you know it was them?
[21:19] emily: i'm not sure they probably are trying to things the legal way
[21:21] emily: the police said
[21:21] emily: they said over the intercom the dcf staff are on the way in
[21:24] mary: really? Did they announce that to the crowd or was it just the police talking to each other?
[21:25] emily: talking to each other
[21:26] emily: then told the people
[21:27] mary: did you get the impression the police were for saving terri, or for letting her die?
[21:27] emily: most were for her
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Anonymous, at 9:28 PM
maybe we can shine a little light on this thing.... they don't understand that the root of this is that HUMAN LIFE IF SACRED it's that simple.... I would be doing this even if our old friend Lillith were the person in there.......
innocent life is innocent....
btw have you heard from the parson?
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Anonymous, at 9:29 PM
florida heat!!!
HEY THERE!!
I am so glad you stopped in!!
How is your daughter doing???
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Straight Up with Sherri, at 9:32 PM
That's a good thing :) I'm having a hard time with the timetags..... is this going on at 9:30 there>?
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Anonymous, at 9:33 PM
texanista
amen!
No-- I have not heard from the parson....
Have you??
Is everything okay with him??
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Straight Up with Sherri, at 9:34 PM
texanista
YUP!!
LOL!!
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Straight Up with Sherri, at 9:35 PM
haven't heard from the parson for probably over a month now. Maybe he decided to take a break or some thing.
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Anonymous, at 9:35 PM
looks like something is going on right now in the fla senate.
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Anonymous, at 9:36 PM
Beautiful Belgian Babe
It has been a hard day...
my chest is like a rock...
sad..
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Straight Up with Sherri, at 9:37 PM
For those that are wondering about "facts" pertaining to Felos and the hospice:
Felos was on the board of the hospice until april 2001 I think....in other words after the first time Terri's feeding tube was pulled.
Dr Gambone, while declaring Terri vegetative, refused to sign off on documentation authorizing her to be in the hospice because he said she wasn't terminal. He resigned from the case. So there was never the completed documentation to authorize moving Terri to the hospice, but Greer hasn't ruled on this yet.
The hospice (remember the felos connection) is presently under collection by the federal govt for over 14 million in unauthorized medicare/medicaid payments. They content that the hospice has moved non-terminal patients into it's care and billed for them inappropriately.
Felos moved Terri into the hospice under the medicare/medicaid system. Michael has not had to use the malpractice money to pay for her stay in the hospice. Greer ruled that he could use the money to pay his lawyers instead. Somewhere in the order to 500k has gone to Felos and his team.
Starting to look like a scam? Yup, it does to me too. Perhaps that's why the courts don't want to rule on the truth; it'd expose an ugly underbelly of florida guardianship law abuse by lawyers, judges and realestate groups.
In 1999, Florida ruled that feeding tubes were extroidinary means of keeping someone alive. That coupled with their intense guardianship laws make it ripe for bilking elderly and invalid patients out of their life savings. I don't think anyone meant to actually *kill* someone. They expect full faith in the vegetative diagnosis. But Terri's parents have fought so hard, they're at risk of being found out, plus some are possibly realizing that things have gotten out of hand and they're not just getting rich. They might actually be killing people.
This is all pure speculation on my part...based on research...but still speculation. But think about it. Why else would a court spend more money and take longer to render a decision, than it would have taken to get the MRI, PET and do rehabilitation until both the parents and Michael agreed about Terri's condition? The money was there to give Terri the tests and the rehab that would have definitively figured out her situtaion. But instead the court ruled the money would pay a lawyer, and they didn't need to see evidence. Perhaps they also didn't want it found out that Terri wasn't vegetative? They'd be discovered as frauds, and they'd loose a cash cow.
I reallize that it may look like I've put on a tin foil hat. But there's smoke here. I don't know how to interpret it, but there's fire somewhere. The Atlanta court has to go on Florida law and by florida law, what is happening is legal. The evidence the Schindler's have is irrelevant to the fact that Michael is Terri's guardian and Florida ruled in 1999 that feeding tubes are life support. In their eyes it's "case closed"
Sorry for rambling......
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Anonymous, at 9:38 PM
Jeb is an impudent little boy!
WIMP!
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Anonymous, at 9:38 PM
Ceci
YOU CAN COME BY AND RAMBLE ANYTIME YOU LIKE!
Thanks for sharing all that...
You stated it MUCH better than I can right now... maybe ever!
Keep rambling!!
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Straight Up with Sherri, at 9:42 PM
wow trolls everywhere.
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Anonymous, at 9:42 PM
LOL yet another "anonymous" hmmmm don't they know that "curmudgeon" will kick a puppy for every vile post they make?
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Anonymous, at 9:43 PM
texanista
LOL!!
I sure hope he has run out of puppies... could be a long nite!
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Straight Up with Sherri, at 9:45 PM
:) I'll try and have a chat with him.
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Anonymous, at 9:50 PM
There's not checks and balances to the Florida guardianship law. So far I can't find a case where a guardian has been overturned once appointed. There may be one out there, but you'd have to physically dig through records. But via the internet, I haven't found a case.
Florida has professional guardians that are appointed by the court for people meeting "certain criteria". The guardians are usually associated with a legal office/law office. You can also call a law office and say that your mother living in Florida needs a guardian since you live in oregon and can't be there. They will appoint one for you.
If you do this, you may have messed up *big time*. Most guardians are probably above reproach, but if you get one that isn't, woe be to you. They have unlimited access to your parents money, can chose where your parent will live, if they get mail, what they eat and can write unlimited checks on their account. If you feel they are neglecting your parent, you can file charges and got to court, but it's likely that the court will rule that the guardian can use your parents money to defend against your trying to remove them from guardianship. So...your spending your own parents money trying to save them. You're paying the guardian's lawyer with your mother's money. So....lawyers win all the way around. Couple this with real estate agencies that handle estate sales after death and it's a lucrative market specializing in guardianship and death.
*That's* what's going on here people. It has nothing to do with conservative/liberal, republican/democrat. The mainstream media is leaving out 90% of the details of this case.
Sorry....did it again. :)
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Anonymous, at 9:50 PM
Hey Sherri :) Em has a 3 month old so she couldn't stay at the hospice very long. She says she was so touched by the number of people who are coming out for Terri, and it is so heartbreaking at the hospice, that she's heading back in the morning to lend her support.
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Anonymous, at 9:52 PM
sorry .. that other anonymous wasn't me .. i was busy posting over here:
http://straightupwsherri.blogspot.com/2005/03/dcf-and-greer-meeting-now-dcf-may-take.html#comments
and folks .. i don't buy the conspiracy thing.
i'm sure the Schindler's TEAM of lawyers have made over $500,000 in legal fees over the years too.
have you looked in to Diana's car crash death? they believe that's a conspiracy theory too.
maybe that can be your next crusade ... finding out if Charles really had Diana killed because he wanted to be able to get it on with Camilla without fear of reproach.
oh .. and if all of this is going on under good 'ole boy Jeb's watch .. why hasn't he done anything about it? hmmm dunno .. maybe his hands are in the pocket?
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Anonymous, at 9:53 PM
yep that's about it.... also, this is much the same for other states as well. I might add here that any clinician working in this environment or any other medical environment could provide those checks and balances but they don't because the higherups will go after them for it. Are we all on the same page now ?
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Anonymous, at 9:53 PM
Lillith you just lost your cred with me. Your syntax and morphology along with our tone demonstrate that you are a troll....
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Anonymous, at 9:55 PM
that combined with your correcting of my spelling error of "lillith"
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Anonymous, at 9:56 PM
okay lilleth
that is why we don't like the anonyomous thing, you don't have to be consistent. You were treated as an honest broker. Trust is now broken.
done talking to you now.
Sherri has pointed this out several times.
Melissa
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Anonymous, at 10:01 PM
floridaheat
HOW AWESOME!!
A BABY AND AN ACTIVIST!!
I BET YOU ARE PROUD!
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Straight Up with Sherri, at 10:02 PM
Apparently Dr. Gambone made a statement by resigning from Terri's case. He said she was vegetative, which he apparently believed, but he refused to say she was terminal and would be dead within 6 months which is required in order to put her in a hospice. So that was the doctor's attempt at the checking the power of Florida guardianship law. Sad isnt' it...kinda impotent isn't it.
I'm putting words in his mouth by saying this, but it does look like something Felos was doing bugged him enough to leave the case. I don't know why people think this part of the situation is a conspiracy theory. You can look up the fact that Gambone resigned and didn't sign the document that Terri was terminal. So...why else would Felos put her in the hospice *and* do so under medicare payments instead of her malpractice money. And do this while he was still on the board? Think about it, Lillith.
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Anonymous, at 10:05 PM
bbb
THANK YOU VERY MUCH..
Trying to stay focused on Terri...
I take breaks and call friends, whail a bit....
I was helpless in helping her, but I am not helpless for Terri...
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Straight Up with Sherri, at 10:05 PM
I see that, while I was off-line, other folks have answered Anonymice's question re: "why was Terri put into a hospice in the first place" very well and thoroughly. I don't have anything to add. Thanks, all!
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Anonymous, at 10:07 PM
Ceci,
I've been wondering about that for some time... There has to be some truth out there about who's paying for the hospice.
Thanks for the post.
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The Sojourner, at 10:08 PM
eiter this anon.... shit stops or anyone who goes on like that is a troll in my interpretation.
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Anonymous, at 10:09 PM
I lost my grandmother a couple of months ago.... she lived to the age o 97 and was never in a hospital in her life except for a couple of births... I don't grieve for her.... I celebrate her life .... She would have wanted that.
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Anonymous, at 10:11 PM
bbb
I think we have done all we can for today.. but in the morn I plan to start calling DCF again....
texanista
that is wonderful that she had such a full life...
My grandma was only 74...
she walked everywhere!
SHE NEVER HAD A LICENSE...
she was very active in her comunity then one day she fell... she has (had) diabetes...
she ended up with gangreen and had her leg amputated. we almost lost her then...
She went into a nursing home... and ended up with gangreen in the OTHER LEG!
TELL ME HOW THIS HAPPENS?!!
i need to stop..
sorry..
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Straight Up with Sherri, at 10:17 PM
bbb
nah! I like the trolls...
don't bother me... I htink it shows quite well the differences...
they kinda prove my points... LOL!!
Plus.. I like a differing view that can do it respectably..
call me silly...
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Straight Up with Sherri, at 10:19 PM
hey mary
YES!! ceci and texanista have done an AWESOME JOB!!!
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Straight Up with Sherri, at 10:20 PM
Sherri,
It happens for the same reason that Terri is in her situation..... people trust doctors, ect. and never consider their motives for the diagnosis..... it wasn't your fault or anyone in your family because you were trusting those people/institutions. Your grandmother probably ended up a TypeII and things went down hill from there.
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Anonymous, at 10:20 PM
Thanks bbb, and texanista. You're right about folks who claim to want to "unerstand". The documentation is out there...and the original stuff in many cases, not interpretations. If they wanted to understand, they'd have done the research like we all did.
Oh well, I spent time trying to explain it to someone that probably didn't really want to hear it. And all the folks here that care about Terri living already knew those facts! Thanks for bearing with my verbosity. :)
I guess I'm tired. I should probably call it a night.
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Anonymous, at 10:21 PM
yes, please do.
please delete and delete and delete .....
delete anyone and everyone that doesn't agree with you!
that's it!!
oh .. and i'm heartbroken that i've lost "cred" with you ... i'm sobbing as i type. whatever will i do now?
I KNOW!! i'll drive to Florida .. storm the doors of the hospice and get Terri out for you!! Will I be accepted then? Will I? Huh? Will I? Will I?
i've been mean, i've been honest, i've tried to be nice, i've been logical but you just don't get it. it is pointless ... you will believe the lies and allegations that you want to believe.
funny how the ONLY person here who is wrong .. is me.
LOL
tell me .. what color is the sky in your little worlds?
Peace ...
and if you want to look up something .. why don't you look up the term LEMMINGS.
*wink*
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Anonymous, at 10:24 PM
bbb
NO- you didn't sound like you were blaming anyone at all...
there ate good doctors and bad ones.. besides, I don't blame the doctors- I blame my uncles who were supposed to be taking care of her...
I will go no farther than that.....
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Straight Up with Sherri, at 10:26 PM
I truly appreciate Sherri's tolerance for anon posters.
As I understand it, the main "problem" with Anonymous is that you can't be held accountable and consistent. To be honest, sometimes it's worthwhile to play devil's advocate and state an opposing (but always respectful) view. It helps elucidate the thoughts of others. It may appear selfish, but what can I say -- I'm on the Internet to learn.
I could do the same thing by just having two blogger IDs. It's less deceiving using Anonymous
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Anonymous, at 10:27 PM
bbb
LOL!!!
see what I mean???
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Straight Up with Sherri, at 10:27 PM
any update?
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Anonymous, at 10:31 PM
don't know of any updates.... anyone?
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Anonymous, at 10:33 PM
NO UPDATES BUT i AM ABOUT TO POST SOMETHING VERY INTERESTING!!
OFF TO PLAY HOST!
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Straight Up with Sherri, at 10:36 PM
((Sherri))
I'm sorry about your Grandmother. I also appreciate your efforts to help Terri and keep us informed.
Jewels in your crown, my dear.
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The Sojourner, at 10:41 PM
Anon-Lil, all you had to do was post in good faith. Sorry you can't seem to do that. Don't let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya....we are all too heavy hearted to humor you.
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Anonymous, at 10:54 PM
SO, what is it my brothers and sisters? Is God truly on the throne or what?
Rhetorical question. Remember that HE has the ultimate say here. I know Jesus went 40 days without food, don't know about the water, but as MM said, He is the living water.
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jlfintx, at 11:27 PM
Anon-Lil, all you had to do was post in good faith. Sorry you can't seem to do that. Don't let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya....we are all too heavy hearted to humor you.
By lady redhawk, at 10:54 PM
Lady Redhawk ... you must have missed my 100 or so earlier posts when all I was doing was posting in good faith. That doesn't seem to matter here ... a difference of opinion gets you slammed, ridiculed, taunted, laughed at, taunted, etc.
You know .. all the traits that good Christians have.
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Anonymous, at 12:44 AM
anon/lil/carol
Please give Jim Dobson my regards.
You probably think he is evil too I reckon?
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jlfintx, at 12:55 AM
Carol, that's the problem with anonymous posting. If you'd used an identifiable nic from the get-go, it would have been much easier to tell your postings from more trollish ones that were also posted as "anonymous". Looks to me like ya kinda shot yourself in the foot there... That's how it goes, I guess. Oh, well. Best wishes.
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