Straight Up with Sherri

Wednesday, March 23, 2005

Nice to Know Doc's.... An offer to the Schiavo Team???

Hat tip: Dee


I have offered the following proposition to Terri Schiavo's legal team today:

The single CT image I was able to access at the U of Miami's web sight raises the following ESSENTIAL questions/issues:

Issue: There is something in Terri's right ventricle (the image is reversed). I know she had thalamic implants, but on this one slice the "thing" in Terri's ventricle is not projected to the thalamus, it is projected within the ventricle. She needs a follow-up scan to see what this is and where it is

Issue: If the "thing" in Terri's ventricle is a "shunt tip" -- who put it there and why is it there and was it removed? If she was shunted to relieve hydrocephalus then she must have follow-up exams and someone needs to postulate the most common mechanisms for hydrocephalus (which, I believe, is blood in the cranial vault)



  • Wasn't this shone earlier today to be the wrong person's scan?

    By Anonymous texanista, at 10:45 PM  

  • When you say "shiavo team" do you mean the hubby's team or her parents (the Schindlers)?

    By Anonymous texanista, at 10:51 PM  

  • Jeb made a big mistake by tipping his hand too soon. He should have shut up until it was done.

    From the NYT:

    Judge Greer did not rule on the state's request immediately, but he granted a request from Ms. Schiavo's husband, Michael, to bar the state's Department of Children and Families from taking custody of her, from removing her from the hospice where she has gone six days without her feeding tube and from providing her with nutrition or hydration.

    George Felos, the lawyer for Michael Schiavo, who had sought to end life support for his brain-damaged wife, said he had heard "credible" rumors that state officials planned to send doctors to the hospice to give Ms. Schiavo intravenous fluids.

    Judge Greer also directed state sheriffs to take whatever actions were necessary to enforce the order, which came toward the end of another breathlessly paced day in the case.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:52 PM  

  • anon pic a nic now or get off the pot...

    By Anonymous texanista, at 10:56 PM  

  • Yes, anon, if you are going to post here, please choose a nic. We have asked you nicely before. Thank you.

    By Anonymous lady redhawk, at 10:59 PM  

  • I think it's clear that the MSM have posted on these sited tonight in order to shake things up and gain an advantage...

    By Anonymous texanista, at 11:00 PM  

  • Felt good clicking that delete button...

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 11:05 PM  

  • Listen, you anonymous POS, you are a MISERABLE COWARD. Get off of this blog now! Cretin.

    By Anonymous lady redhawk, at 11:05 PM  

  • ooops Sherri, you beat me to it! Geez, that jerk raised my blood pressure fifty points! Thanks.

    By Anonymous lady redhawk, at 11:06 PM  

  • yep I think our anon is also "scooterbaby" on dlies
    her addy is base on
    a large news organization..... hmmmmm

    By Anonymous texanista, at 11:06 PM  

  • to be exact... :)

    By Anonymous texanista, at 11:09 PM  

  • I've been reading your posts for a little while now....and i want to say first please excuse me if i start to get slightly incoherant I'm so tired it's not even funny but I can't aggitated....moving on

    I suspect I would most likely disagree with most of you on a few differnt things....but not this...

    Being a student of criminal justice..slightly generic...this SCREAMS criminal misconduct from the day Terri had what I like to call.."her accident"....don't jump on me for that I'm trying to illustrate that I think he tried to kill her that day and has been trying to do so since then.....

    My husband and I have been talking about this and for us to both agree that Micheal...I should be on is just WRONG says something...

    Ok i need to take a break cause i'm working myself up again.....

    By Anonymous rachel, at 11:10 PM  

  • wow!

    texanista is on the BALL!!!


    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 11:11 PM  

  • This anon and SB on DL have the same address? Heh heh. Very interesting.

    By Anonymous lady redhawk, at 11:12 PM  

  • rachel

    at the VERY least there should be an investifation into this....

    I am being VERY CONSERVSATIVE when I say that (LOL!)

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 11:13 PM  

  • so.....

    who wants to retire in Clearwater?

    Pinellas County?

    Anywhere in Florida??

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 11:14 PM  

  • I don't know that they have the same address.... I'm just basing this on the style of their combined posts... sintax, use of words, tempo, ect... I could be wrong.

    By Anonymous texanista, at 11:14 PM  

  • tell us about yourself; Rachel.

    By Anonymous curmudgeon, at 11:16 PM  

  • fla is a cool place to visit but after the last two elections and the judges and all..... I think I'll stay here in the Lonestar state or goe to Cali.

    By Anonymous texanista, at 11:18 PM  

  • texanista, the juvenile outbursts also remind me of Mr. Spock, the troll on so many other blogs. You know, the LGFWatch idjit? He changes nics a lot, but never his manipulation of the threads. I'm glad Sherri is quick on the delete button. No one owes that jackass a forum.

    By Anonymous lady redhawk, at 11:18 PM  

  • texanista

    YES!!! Texas sounds GREAT TO ME!!!

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 11:19 PM  

  • you mean Nodrog??? :)

    By Anonymous texanista, at 11:21 PM  

  • Texas is a great place :) I love it here.

    By Anonymous texanista, at 11:24 PM  

  • Sherri....I ABOSLUTLY AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Possible happened 15 yrs ago prior to any kind of good domestic violence laws....and besides what her family says and the DA is going to look for compelling evidence prior to the actual incident.....and then the statute of limitations may come into play ...blah blah legal jargon...

    Seems like Fl doesn't have any one with any balls...excuse the expression to take it on....If it were me....HECK YA...but i'm still to idealistic and care about principle rather then politics

    By Anonymous rachel, at 11:26 PM  

  • Naw, Nodrog is in a category all by himself, LOL!

    By Anonymous lady redhawk, at 11:27 PM  

  • rachel...... still waiting for you to tell us about yourself.... ok?

    By Anonymous texanista, at 11:28 PM  

  • ok then perhaps liberality....

    By Anonymous texanista, at 11:29 PM  

  • Steve Centanni just read some obvious errors in Gibbs' SCOTUS petition (errors which don't sound like they'll necessarily affect any ruling though).

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:30 PM  

  • texanista, do have the info about the wrong scan - Boyle would appreciate the info. He is working with a posted CT on a Univ of Miami Ethics web that states it’s Terri’s CT. In the post Sherri shared yesterday, Boyle covered the CT provided and had numerous findings and questions – one being “Is this Terri’s CT” and later asked if this wasn’t Terri’s CT, where is it. His post ended with the statement, “If this is Terri’s CT of the brain, something may be very wrong.” Thanks

    By Anonymous Dee, at 11:30 PM  

  • rachel


    statut of limitations-- BUT I wonder if there is anyhting that can me done to show that the police are culpable-- or if due to the evidence being HIDDEN my the alleged purp- if this would help--

    I am no attorney- so I have no idea... the least it should be able to accomplish is his removal as her guardian...

    I would hope

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 11:31 PM  

  • dee check out hyscience...

    By Anonymous texanista, at 11:32 PM  

  • Curmudgeon...well whatchya want to

    quick version

    Hi my name is Rachel XXXXXX ( last name with wouldnt be able to pronounce it anyways hehe..)

    25 from chicago but just moved to SC from Washington...Husband is in the NAVY....getting a BS in Criminal kinda funny today....

    Found this site from LGF....NO NOT A TROLL...LOL....ahhhhhh.....and i'm drawing a blank....

    Is it me or does it take forever to get pages to pull up

    By Anonymous rachel, at 11:32 PM  

  • thank you so much rachel... or... lilleth....

    By Anonymous texanista, at 11:34 PM  

  • Thought I was going to bed, can't stay still, anyone heard anything yet?
    Marine Momma

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:34 PM  

  • Hi Rachel, welcome! It's good to have you here.

    By Anonymous lady redhawk, at 11:34 PM  

  • Marine Momma

    Nope-- just that the family filed with the Supreme Court...which was expected...

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 11:36 PM  

  • Texinista...nnoo not lillth....I'd offer an IM to prove it but not sure if that would even help.....just give me a sec to reply....i'm tired and internet is slow today...

    By Anonymous rachel, at 11:37 PM  

  • Sherri, you holding much hope in the SC?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:41 PM  

  • the SC won't mess with this one.... It's going to take us and those like us to make it happen... sadly.

    By Anonymous texanista, at 11:42 PM  

  • Not really....

    I am hoping more for Jeb to stand up and use the DCF....

    When they feel a child is in danger-- they call the police to help them remove the child...

    interesting to see the judicial branch and executive branch both may be telling the police something different....

    Does anyone ever remember anything like that before??

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 11:44 PM  

  • Ack. I missed alot.

    I'm back now. Sherri, hope all is well at home. The kiddo wants to know when that woman with the really nice hair is coming back to stay!

    By Anonymous Sarah D., at 11:46 PM  

  • Sherri....ok...take it with a grain of slat i'm still a student..and I don't knor Florida laws..

    From what I looked up today and the differnt things i read this is what I would look into...

    Guardianship care plan..not filed...buh bye ward of the state...

    Neglect for not letting her receive even the basic range of motion physical therapy....

    a sane person would think that in and of itself would basically hand her over to the state...

    Because of allegations made by some nurses I would start looking into that....ummmm..only thing I can think of comparing this to is the black widow murder chick....the last one didn't die and she was poisening him over a period of time....if i'm remeber correctly....and POOF attempted murder ....

    ok obvisouly you guys are on your game...this is just one of my fyi's i give to ppl because you always hear ppl crying about how they are guilty before proven innocent...cry me a river...blah's the media that does that....the burden is on the prosecution to prove beyond a resonable doubt that whatever happened happened....
    and I was going to say something about intent with that but being that I only got 90 mins of sleep last night I'm losing my train of thought.....

    By Anonymous rachel, at 11:46 PM  

  • From what I've read from Florida they can't even place a child in a safe home. I lost count of the kids that have turned up missing in foster homes. It's not right down there.
    Marine Momma

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:47 PM  

  • interesting to see the judicial branch and executive branch both may be telling the police something different....

    What do you mean? And who do you mean by the police? Which police are being told things?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:48 PM  

  • sarah D


    Nice hair??? LOL!!

    you mean the one that didn't like to wear real clothes???


    WOW! SOrry to hear about you not getting sleep-- that does take a toll..

    although once I retire in Texas with texanista- no worries on that! LOL!

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 11:49 PM  

  • hmmmm anon....=journalist... and liberal at that.... immagine that.

    By Anonymous texanista, at 11:50 PM  

  • Okay go ahead and blast me but:

    Anyone notice that LGF finally has a thread about Shiavo and it is full of disinformation. The same blog that he points out is one that Lillith referenced in her long dissertation.

    By Blogger jlfintx, at 11:50 PM  

  • You're going to Texas? Where it's warm and no snow? Can I come too?
    Marine Momma

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:50 PM  

  • texanista, checked hyscience and they just had the same two Sherri has ref CTs- no comments added. Oh, well...thks

    I'll kinda miss ole Lil; funny her slapping my hand for answering a question she directed to Mary in LA

    By Anonymous Dee, at 11:52 PM  

  • Where is my actual cop freinds when I need them....that whole thing with the judge telling the cops one thing then you got jeb...hmmmm.....I think it's possible jeb is scared of being held in contempt like how that jusge should be for the whole congressional thing.....but even then what's the judge going to do...issue an arrest warrent for him? that would be interesting....that's like the supreme court saying ya george gitmo is bad and you need to stop and george and rummy givn the one finger salute in reply....

    By Anonymous rachel, at 11:52 PM  

  • anonymous

    Their are RUMORS that Jeb Bush may send the DCF in to take Terri...

    also a rumor (NYT- so not telling) that Greer told the state sherriff to do whatever it takes to not let them take Terri...

    Not posting it yet-- because I don't want to CREATE a hysteria if one does not exist...

    I like to break news fast-- but am careful not to start hysteria...
    or get things wrong...

    this case has been very MESSY as far as news goes...

    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 11:53 PM  

  • Gag, Susan Ostrich on Greta. yuk

    By Blogger jlfintx, at 11:55 PM  

  • oh thanks to everyone for welcoming me

    Sherrie..ya but thats why god created coffee....this has just got me so spun up.....same thing happened with the whole iraq thing.....and still does to a certain extent...

    By Anonymous rachel, at 11:55 PM  

  • jlf, LGF had a Schiavo thread? I damn sure missed it. When was that? If I had known, I woulda been in there swinging!

    By Anonymous lady redhawk, at 11:57 PM  

  • lgf has no Terri thread you guys....

    By Anonymous texanista, at 11:58 PM  

  • It's still up lady redhawk. I can't remember the thread title but Charles has power line highlighted in it.
    Marine Momma

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:58 PM  

  • rachel is a troll......GAZE

    By Anonymous texanista, at 11:59 PM  

  • ya LFG does that's how I got here...its more about that memo then it is about terri though

    By Anonymous rachel, at 12:00 AM  

  • rachel....just give us the link.

    By Anonymous texanista, at 12:00 AM  

  • Alright enough of this, CAN I COME LIVE IN TEXAS TOO? It is dang cold up here!
    Marine Momma

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:01 AM  

  • oh lord how can I be a troll when i agree with you....

    By Anonymous rachel, at 12:01 AM  

  • That so Texanista.

    Check again.

    By Blogger jlfintx, at 12:02 AM  

  • Rachel I think Texanisti must be tired because I don't see where you are a troll.

    By Blogger jlfintx, at 12:03 AM  

  • LGF - A Very Fishy Memo, 333 comments

    By Anonymous Dee, at 12:04 AM  

  • when it pulls up i will give you the link but the post is about that memo the democrats are saying were the republican talking points ....if you go to the comments in one of them there is a link for this page and another one...

    By Anonymous rachel, at 12:04 AM  

  • I stand corrected... I had to know...

    By Anonymous texanista, at 12:05 AM  


    zombie posted the link

    By Anonymous rachel, at 12:06 AM  

  • biggie i'm right there with a misinterpertation of my humor....just gettin punchy

    By Anonymous rachel, at 12:08 AM  

  • I found it, thanks MM and all. I must've just scrolled by it earlier today for some reason. I read as much as I could stomach. I'll probably read more of it tomorrow when my tolerence level is a little higher, know what I mean?

    By Anonymous lady redhawk, at 12:10 AM  

  • Check out comment #150 concerning the memo, Nigella said she visited SUWS and got a violent reaction and was accussed of being nodrog.

    By Anonymous Dee, at 12:17 AM  

  • I heard something about possibly sending the feds in.....there has got to be some loop gets federal funds does it not...wonder if they could use that money someone said something about ealier what was it $14 million or something as a reason be a bit transparent but it would get the job done....when I worked at a nursing home before I got married we were under constant threat of the state coming in cause that place was literally a warehouse....had to bad that was the very same place my grandma was and what i suspect didnt help....

    By Anonymous rachel, at 12:19 AM  

  • Hi Sherri (and everyone else),
    I'm back. I had to work--you know, my paying job that I've been neglecting all week (LOL). Seems like I missed some major trolls.

    Interesting post.

    So much evidence of crime against Terri just about everywhere.

    And yet she still is dying.

    Please tell me those rumors you keep alluding to are true.

    By Blogger Beautiful Belgian Babe, at 12:20 AM  

  • If anyone has a compilation of all the judges and politicians who have/are working to kill Terri please e-mail me please.

    They must be held accountable.

    By Blogger Smug Monkey, at 12:26 AM  

  • Has anyone seen these?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:27 AM  

  • I have this theory....
    you have some nurses saying yes she responded to me and others saying no....

    you have her parents saying she is responding with VIDEO....and Micheal saying no.....

    Wonder if she responds to strangers she feels comfortable ever get that feeling when someone walks in the room and your either like they seem ok or you just know to stay away....and out of personal experiance and no offense to anyone that's an a nurse here....but just cause youre a nurse doesnt mean you have the caring mentality you know...after all micheal is an RN....

    Obvisouly micheal is going to say she doesn't respond ...but when my husband and I were talking about it maybe she doesn't respond to him cause ummmm he abuses her....

    just a thought

    By Anonymous rachel, at 12:29 AM  

  • Sherri, did O'Reilly redeem himself in your eyes tonight with his talking point memos? As opposed to the other day's.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:30 AM  

  • I thought Oreily had a list of the ppl who didnt help...or was it of them has to have one....I gave up on trying to bother with calling my now old congressmen etc when the person tried to smugly lecture me on military voting

    By Anonymous rachel, at 12:34 AM  

  • as far as oreilly goes-- he can be a great crusader sometimes, but I am losing respect for him....

    He really doesn't do a very thorough job sometimes...

    I guess we can all be guilty of that at times...

    But I didn't see him tonight... didn't pay any attention...

    I am off to bed all... long and tearful day...

    See you in the morn!!!


    By Blogger Straight Up with Sherri, at 12:46 AM  

  • Good night, all.
    This time I really mean it.

    By Blogger Beautiful Belgian Babe, at 12:47 AM  

  • I'm off to bed as well. I'm honored to know all of you fine people who hold life to be sacred...perhaps we'll have some good news in the morning.


    By Anonymous lady redhawk, at 12:54 AM  

  • me four, i have to hit another 13 hour day tomorrow and work the weekend. i am too old and tired for this stuff.

    By Blogger jlfintx, at 12:59 AM  

  • You guys are quite entertaining.

    First of all .. whoever was posting here wasn't me. Since Mary in LA asked me to use a nick .. I was using the Anonymice/Lillith handle.

    Do you actually think I'm the only one who posts here?

    I was gone for about an hour or so ... I've been feeling quite ill today and my temperature is now at 102.4. I've been in the bathtub trying to bring down the fever and also speaking on the phone to Kaiser Permanente to decide if I need to go into the emergency room.

    So .. seriously ... the last time i posted here until now was when I called you all lemmings. :)

    That being said ... first: Texanista the spelling is SHOWN .. not shone.

    Second, Lady RedHawk I addressed your concern on another "comment" ...

    Third, I don't know what the MSM is? Can someone enlighten me? You all think I am the stupid one, right?

    Fourth: Texanista .. you've accused me of being three or four different people now .. can you make up your mind? I don't know any of the organizations or people of whom you speak ... I originally found this blog from Technorati when searching for other information.

    Sorry to burst your bubble ... but I don't know what PNI is ( to be exact) ... and I'm in Colorado. You have trackers on this site ... (Texanista you suck as an investigator)

    rachel said...

    Sherri....I ABOSLUTLY AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Possible happened 15 yrs ago prior to any kind of good domestic violence laws....and besides what her family says and the DA is going to look for compelling evidence prior to the actual incident.....and then the statute of limitations may come into play ...blah blah legal jargon...

    Question: if all of this abuse was going on .. why were the Schindlers and Michael Schiavo so close for the next 4 years after her heart attack? If she was being abused, wouldn't they have suspected (as you all so clearly state that they have) and why would they have been so kind to him after her accident??

    I've lost count .. what is LGF?

    Regarding the Wolfson report .. I found that from some link also while perusing Technorati. I don't have the link anymore because the file is a pdf download. There are hundreds of bloggers who have referenced this report ... an initial search on Tecnhorati comes up with 12+ pages ... not you're not surmising that I'm all of these people, are you?

    Who is NODROG or whoever that is you keep referring to?

    Okay . whew . I've addressed your concerns. Happy now?

    By Anonymous Carol Henderson, Boulder, Colorado, at 1:08 AM  

  • Okay Carol Lillith: I will try and answer your questions.

    MSM is the mainstream media.

    LGF is, another blog that is quite popular for moderate/conservatives.

    nodroG is the reverse spelling of a poster and chief arguer at LGF

    Maybe they thought you were Cybil.

    there are several documents at a website, but can't remember the link that has the 3 depositions and trial transcripts, the medical records, the nurse notes, the police report. have you seen any of those?

    By Blogger jlfintx, at 1:15 AM  

  • I think they've all gone to bed, but:

    MSM is the acronym given (usually in a derogatory context) to the Main Stream Media. Usually used when the poster perceives biased action and/or consipiracy theories.

    LGF is the acronym given to Some of the regular readers on here have vowed never to return to the otherwise conservative site because it wasn't giving Terri's story coverage (until Wed nite)

    As far as investigative ability, I think many blog commenters (both left and right) overestimate their internet cunning. I think texanista eventually scaled back his claim about you

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:31 AM  

  • I can only speculate as to why the Schindlers remained close to Michael. My sister was in a bad marriage with a very handsome, suave, charming man who had us all fooled for a while. Even after my sister started suspecting him of cheating, and even after we all became concerned because he wasn't working (none of the jobs he was offered were ever good enough for him, you see...) my parents still tried to be nice to him, bought him a computer, helped pay his tuition, etc.

    Most parents try to love their sons- and daughters-in-law, I think, and it's often hard for them to break the bond. Maybe harder, perhaps, because they don't get to see the bad marriage from the inside.

    I count myself extremely lucky that my ex-brother-in-law just left, instead of becoming physically abusive.

    Just my personal opinion, for what it's worth.

    I think I'll go to bed soon, too. Nighty night, all -- I hope for better news in the morning...

    By Anonymous Mary in LA, at 2:36 AM  

  • there are several documents at a website, but can't remember the link that has the 3 depositions and trial transcripts, the medical records, the nurse notes, the police report. have you seen any of those?

    By jlfintx, at 1:15 AM

    no i haven't. what i have read, however, is extensive legal analysis of all the documents in this matter ... one of which was the PDF file that I posted which was a report by a Guardian Ad Litem that was appointed by the Chief Judge to prepare a report for Jeb Bush.

    seems pretty clear and convincing that all of the supposed "allegations" have surfaced later.

    interesting ... i posted here earlier yesterday that i thought her bone traumas could be related to the fact that she was bulemic, severely lacking nutrition, and had fragile bones at this point.

    i was reading earlier tonight before i tried to go to sleep on a website which is maintained by an 11th Circuit Appellate Attorney about the Schiavo case. he has NO ties to either side. he is completely neutral but has posted clear factual information.

    i found it interesting that he says on a FAQ page (he compiled information regarding questions he is asked over and over):

    But isn't there a bone scan that shows Terri was beaten?

    I honestly don't know. What I understand is that a bone scan was taken in 1991 and that the doctor who read it saw on it evidence of past trauma at various places on Terri's body. Some consider that evidence of a severe beating by her husband, others consider it evidence consistent with bulimia, a fall, and CPR by paramedics. Whether trauma really happened, or what kind, or when, are all unclear.

    The bone scan was not raised in the original trial regarding Terri's wishes. The issue was raised by the Schindlers in a November 2002 emergency motion.

    i wonder why that is? if they TRULY suspected this, why wasn't it raised in the original trial? because it was "created" later as an attempt to discredit Michael?

    he further states:

    I've heard Michael beat or strangled her nearly to death and that he wants her to die to cover up his abuse. What really happened?

    I do not know this family and will not comment on whether any abuse occurred. I can, however, look to the case's history and point out some items that might be relevant to anyone considering this issue.

    First, "Terri's Law" required the chief judge of the local circuit court to appoint a guardian ad litem (GAL) to examine Terri's case and advise the Governor. The chief judge appointed Dr. Jay Wolfson from the University of South Florida. Dr. Wolfson's December 2003 report to Governor Bush included this bit of factual history:

    The cause of the cardiac arrest was adduced to a dramatically reduced potassium level in Theresa's body. Sodium and potassium maintain a vital, chemical balance in the human body that helps define the electrolyte levels. The cause of the imbalance was not clearly identified, but may be linked, in theory, to her drinking 10-15 glasses of iced tea each day. While no formal proof emerged, the medical records note that the combination of [Theresa's] aggressive weight loss, diet control and excessive hydration raised questions about Theresa from Bulimia, an eating disorder, more common among women than men, in which purging through vomiting, laxatives and other methods of diet control become obsessive.

    Also relevant to questions about the cause of Terri's collapse is the lawsuit that Michael brought on Terri's behalf against Terri's doctors. The premise of that early 1990s lawsuit was that the doctors committed malpractice by failing to diagnose Terri's bulimia and that her bulimia led to her cardiac arrest. The case was tried to a jury, which ruled in Michael's favor, finding that Terri had bulimia, that her bulimia caused her cardiac arrest, and that the doctors were negligent in failing to diagnose the situation. The verdict was appealed, and before the appellate court could rule, the parties settled, with Michael recovering approximately $750,000 for Terri and $300,000 for himself.

    After this case gained national attention in 2003, Gary Fox, the lawyer who represented Terri and Michael in that suit, wrote a stirring column concerning Terri's bulimia and how the tragic effects of that disease have been lost in the hoopla surrounding this case. The St. Pete Times still has that column online, and you can read it

    The significance of the medical malpractice lawsuit can be seen in a few ways. A jury agreed that bulimia caused Terri's collapse. The defendants were her doctors -- one might think that they, of all people, would have been able to show that Terri had been beaten or strangled if that was what had occurred. Also, to believe that Michael caused Terri's collapse by beating her is to believe that Michael initiated a lawsuit against someone else for causing her collapse, opening the whole matter to serious inquiry and greatly increasing the risk that someone would discover his role.

    Finally, I am not aware that anyone -- not the paramedics, doctors, nurses, family members, friends, or anyone else -- who saw Terri in the hours, weeks, and months after her collapse ever suggested at the time that Terri had been beaten or strangled.

    As I said above, I am not commenting on whether any abuse actually occurred. I don't know.

    The sad part is here in this blog, everyone talks about research and information, etc. But it seems that you only look for the propaganda type of information ... not information from neutral third partys who a) have no interest in the case and b) do not side with either party.

    Frankly, I'm more apt to believe those folks than all of tthese allegations that continue to be thrown around by what I believe to be well-meaning individuals, but who are sorely misinformed.

    My original purpose for ever posting on this site was to try and get the zealots to "look at the other side of the beach ball" ... but it's impossible. You walk through life with blinders on, you jump on a band wagon cause and ride that horse to death. It is compelely tragic that you *hear* something and it spreads like wildfire ... without regard for who's life you may be trashing.

    You refuse to see anything OTHER than what you believe .. .what you are certain of . what you have heard ... but the fact remains that NONE of you were there ... the fact remains that for some reason .. the Schindlers allowed Michael to live with them for 4 years while taking care of Terri .. that if there was some kind of abuse going on prior to that .. they would have known but didn't bring it up until years later ...

    I think the very sad fact is that the Schindlers are heartbroken for the loss of their daughter and need someone to blame. They want to lash out ... they want to scream and cry ... they want to make others feel the pain that they are feeling .. which are all normal reactions to grief.

    I have a question ... let's say that by some miraculous intervention, Terri was allowed to begin receiving nutrition. And lets say that she was stabilized and given further medical examinations (the MRI and PET and whatever else you all are screaming for) ... and the results are the SAME .. much if not most of her cerebral cortex (the portion of the brain that controls conscious thought, among other things) was literally gone, replaced by spinal fluid. she doesn't have a brain. it's gone.

    All the allegations that she reacts to stimuli ... are proven false. That is really is just brain stem activity because the Schindlers have never been able to consistently show that Terri responds in any kind of cohesive manner.

    So then what? What would you have happen then? For her to literally remain like that for another 20 years?

    See .. it's a no-win situation here.

    All of this being said ... I'm done posting here. I have never considered myself right or left .. but merely someone who believes in certain things. My attempts to bring in neutral information has failed ... as I have been nothing short of harassed, ridiculed, taunted, laughed at, called a liar, called a killer, etc.

    If this is how Christian's act ... I never want to be one.

    You all take care ....


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