Spouse's Wishes Really Don't Matter to Judge Greer
A news story posted early Thursday morning by WoldNetDaily paints a pretty gruesome picture of Judge George Greer. After listening to a seemingly endless chorus of Michael Schiavo sympathizers claim that Greer is just honoring a spouse's wish, we now see a much darker side of this hideous monster. George Greer just seems to enjoy knowing that he can kill innocent victims at whatever whim strikes him. Now, that's power!
According to the story, "...the Florida county jurist at the center of the Terri Schiavo case, ruled against a woman who was fighting to keep her husband alive in 2000.
The 2000 case heard by Greer involved the life of St. Petersburg lawyer Blair Clark, a University of South Florida professor. After suffering a heart attack Sept. 9, 2000, his children, who stood to inherit much of his estate, claimed they wanted to honor his wishes to remove him from a ventilator and feeding tube and allow him to die. His wife, Ping, however, believed his condition could improve with therapy and claimed only one month later treatments had not been given enough time.
Unlike Terri Schiavo, Blair Clark, 58, had a living will, which stated: "If the situation should arise in which there is no reasonable expectation of my recovery from severe physical or mental disability, I request that I be allowed to die and that life-prolonging procedures not be provided."
However, his wife believed there was still a reasonable expectation of recovery.
"His living will did not say, 'Don't save me, just let me die,'" his wife pleaded. "They want to kill Blair and I don't know why. I want to ask, 'What's the rush?' I'm the only one who wants to save him. Every time I say yes, they say no. I had to go to court to give him blood."
But on Oct. 24, 2000, Greer ruled in favor of the children and against the wishes of the wife, ordering all mechanical ventilation and intravenous nutrition stopped.
"I cannot see him die," she cried. "I know how much he wants to live. They'll be guilty their whole lives for killing Blair Clark."
Clark died a week after the ruling, Oct. 31, 2000."
Right Wing Nut Job
According to the story, "...the Florida county jurist at the center of the Terri Schiavo case, ruled against a woman who was fighting to keep her husband alive in 2000.
The 2000 case heard by Greer involved the life of St. Petersburg lawyer Blair Clark, a University of South Florida professor. After suffering a heart attack Sept. 9, 2000, his children, who stood to inherit much of his estate, claimed they wanted to honor his wishes to remove him from a ventilator and feeding tube and allow him to die. His wife, Ping, however, believed his condition could improve with therapy and claimed only one month later treatments had not been given enough time.
Unlike Terri Schiavo, Blair Clark, 58, had a living will, which stated: "If the situation should arise in which there is no reasonable expectation of my recovery from severe physical or mental disability, I request that I be allowed to die and that life-prolonging procedures not be provided."
However, his wife believed there was still a reasonable expectation of recovery.
"His living will did not say, 'Don't save me, just let me die,'" his wife pleaded. "They want to kill Blair and I don't know why. I want to ask, 'What's the rush?' I'm the only one who wants to save him. Every time I say yes, they say no. I had to go to court to give him blood."
But on Oct. 24, 2000, Greer ruled in favor of the children and against the wishes of the wife, ordering all mechanical ventilation and intravenous nutrition stopped.
"I cannot see him die," she cried. "I know how much he wants to live. They'll be guilty their whole lives for killing Blair Clark."
Clark died a week after the ruling, Oct. 31, 2000."
Right Wing Nut Job
posted by Straight Up with Sherri at
3:22 AM
13 Comments:
that reminds me to a certain extent of what happened with my step mom...a little..but her daughters were content to let her waste away....
OT.....concerning a post in a previous thread which yes i know should have put it there but im putting here...what can i say I like to go against the grain ..most of the time...
carols logic it seems was if she was abused then why where her parents close with her...
I have a friend who is currently married to an abusive husband..both physical and mental....she has had him arressted and even though he is in the military they tend to stick up for thier own...her own sister has said...but he seems like such a nice guy it can't be that bad...completely ignoring that he had grabbed her by the back of her head and threw her down then tried to beat her dog because he was hiding behind her...
Why doesnt she leave... because part of the pattern of abuse was him making her completely reliant on him and alienating her from everyone else in the process..I know if she felt that she could leave she would and I personally believe it's only a matter of time....
The rest of her family LOVES him.....her mother is well aware of the situation and she still makes excuses for him....
it's not a perfect world and its not always easy for a parents to accept something when they thought the oppisite...when i have more coffee maybe I'll go into how the if she did have an eating dis order ... which may very well could have been why she had a heart attack could have been a sign that he was abusing her....
A very specific sign of an abusive spouse is control....
Now I think I should go do whatever it is religous zealots do...since now apparently I am one....funny I always considered myself agnostic
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Anonymous, at 7:45 AM
Rachel ..
I respectfully say you're full of CRAP.
You mean you are going to sit there with a straight face and try to tell people that with the obsessive way the Schindlers are now saying they are trying to protect their daughter that they would have idlly sat by and let Michael abuse her when they were together?????????
Is that REALLY what you are saying?
Because that has to be about the most absurd thing I've heard in the last week.
SHE HAD AN EATING DISORDER ... not IF she had one. Michael and Terri won a malpractice lawsuit for $1 million dollars because her doctors failed to diagnose her eating disorder. HELLOOOOOO!!!!!
She had the eating disorder before she even MET Michael Schiavo.
See what happens? You just spout CRAP that has no basis in fact and because you SAY it ... you think it's truth. Maybe when you have more coffee your own brain will fire up and realize the ludicriousness of what you just posted.
UNBELIEVABLE!
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Anonymous, at 8:06 AM
It's convient isnt that she has an eating disorder after the fact specially when money is involved...and yes I can sit her and say parents do that because I KNOW FOR FACT it is going on....It's called denial....which you are apparently in..See to me if it looked like a clean cut case then I would have no problem with what he is doing but because of other mitigating factors it makes me look at everything else....
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Anonymous, at 8:15 AM
Both of you really need to take some time and read the information on this blog and many of the others.
Terri NEVER HAD A HEART ATTACK!
This is known die to her potassium levels. The media keeps spouting this lie.
Terri NEVER HAD an eating "Disorder." NO DOCTOR has ever- EVER diagnosed her with one. IN facts Dr. Prawer gave Terri's ENTIRE medical file to the Department of Health, and they cleared him of ALL wrong doing. THey were SUPPOSED to INVESTIGATE Michael for abuse- but amazingly- not only did they not do that, the her file has been destroyed.
The civil courts have become a SHAM! You can claim you fell in someone's yard, sue them, and heck- you don't even ever have to prove you were ON their property!
Why do you think there is such a roar over tort reform?
Honestly, do some reading. It is sad waht is going on here. Truth has NO Room in the courts. God help us.
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Anonymous, at 8:25 AM
Sorry..cardiac arrest..It was my understanding that Micheal claimed the potassium inbalance was a result of her eating disorder...
If I am wrong about that..then I stand corrected..I'm willing to admit when I am wrong...which doesn't happen often...( ya that's a joke )...
I agree with the other side when it comes down to the govt getting involved in family matters....I'll probably get jumped on this one...but I am pro-choice and I am pro....right to die..i guess when it's a consenting adult that has a terminal disease etc.....I'm certainly not one to tell other people how they should live or end thier life for that matter...
but because of the abuse allegations and what looks like a pattern of behavoir over the years..not to mention the new "wife" and his unwillingness to give up....just doesn't sit right
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Anonymous, at 9:35 AM
Are YOU insane? Apparently you are.
THIS blog posts nothing but right wing propaganda. I have conducted over 100 hours of research into this matter trying to understand what is going on.
You are going to say that she never had a heart attack ... nor an eating disorder? Then would you like to explain to me how the Schiavo's won a medical malpractice lawsuit????
This article
was written by the attorney for the Schiavos .... you MAY want to read it and educate your ignorant self.
In November 1992, a jury in Clearwater returned a verdict in favor of Terri and Michael Schiavo for more than $6.8-million. The jury found that Terri had been the victim of substandard medical care that caused, in part, her coma. The jury also found that Terri was partly at fault and the verdict was reduced accordingly, to about $2-million. I was the lead trial lawyer for Terri and Michael.
I have followed from afar the saga of the Schiavo family since the trial. The battles over whether to disconnect Terri's life support have been extensively covered in the media. What has not been widely reported is the cause of Terri's coma.
By all accounts, Terri was a fine young woman. She had a good job, a good marriage and many friends. Most who knew Terri, however, were unaware that she was sick. Terri suffered from an eating disorder known as bulimia nervosa, commonly called bulimia. The disease causes its victims to overeat ("binge") and soon thereafter vomit ("purge"). The cycle of binging and purging is extremely dangerous. The human heart, to work properly, requires a balance of the body's electrolytes. Vomiting can upset the electrolyte balance and cause abnormal heart rhythms that can lead to heart attack. That is what happened to Terri. One night, Terri purged, which caused her potassium level to drop low enough to cause a heart attack. Before fire rescue arrived and took her to the hospital, Terri's brain had been deprived of oxygen for long enough to produce catastrophic brain damage.
And Rachel: There is no after the fact. There is FACT? What the hell is wrong with you people?? Are you so dam blind that you refuse to see the TRUTH? Do you actually believe Michael Schiavo would have made this all up, gone through a medical malpractice trial with the chance that IF he was lying he would be exposed?????
Anon: LOL the people on this website think ALL courts are a sham .. civil or otherwise.
I'm shaking my head in disbelief at the absurdity of the statements coming off of this blog. My friend sent me here .. now I'm beginning to think he did it as a joke.
PHEW .... Charlie, pass the lithium to these folks.
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Anonymous, at 9:45 AM
Sherri
What makes you so special to call Greer a murderer? How many years of medical training and law school do YOU have? This man has done more for our Government in any given week than you have in your entire life I bet.
YLB
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Anonymous, at 10:13 AM
Well don't we see where you stand....inconsideration you claim you were thier lawyer...kinda invalidates any point good or bad you made....if it were a perfect world..all I would want is a criminal investigation...and if all allegations are found to be
unsubstantiated and it's just upset family members clinging to any kind of hope then so be it...
Being that in the grand scheme of things what i think really doesn't matter....it won't happen...Fact is and I hate to say it..but Terrie will probably die with in the next cpl of days and the book will close....
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Anonymous, at 10:16 AM
Rachel:
Are you on crack?
I never said I was their lawyer?!
Do you ever READ? Or do you just pretend to read and then make stuff up as you go along?
And Rachel .. there was an investigation when the Chief Judge appointed a GAL to report to Jeb Bush in 2003 ... there was NO EVIDENCE OF ABUSE.
GET IT?
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Anonymous, at 11:19 AM
Hey no need for name calling....i misread it...kinda in the middle of other things right now....
yes i know this
The earlier 2001 that were investigated were dismissed with recomandations...then with the new allegations Greer said the testomony wasn't credible.....this is kinda where the feds come in....wanting to have a fresh look at the case.......which I think should be done.....
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Anonymous, at 12:24 PM
I'm going to put on my I'll try and be reasonable hat...
Let's say all abuse allegations are wrong....the money thing...wrong...is it really that unreasonable to at least grant the parents a new round of tests...maybe even agreeing on who should give and interpret those tests...then if it remains the status quo removing the tube....and yes i realize that may not even please her parents ...
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Anonymous, at 12:33 PM
Rachel,
Good job at staying calm. That Anonymous person is really rude and nasty to you. May God teach him right from wrong.
He trusted the judge and the doctors and lawyers who are against Terri Schindler Schiavo. If he keeps it up, one day he'll trust those people to his own demise.
Here's some websites to read more on Terri's plight:
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/terri.htm
http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2005/03/kate_adamson_sp.php
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43463
Joseph
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Anonymous, at 8:51 AM
Qustion? I wonder if the outcome would have been the same if Michael was in the persistive vegitave state and Terri was living and having children with another man and wanted Michael starved to death so she could go on with her life? What would Judge Greer's ruling be then?
mmmmm I wonder?
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Anonymous, at 4:07 PM
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